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Post by Dave Towers on Aug 26, 2021 21:08:12 GMT
Of course in some of our previous games we've been able to select Jennings and Buttler and the former but for injury would have been in the side tonight.
It was Bohannon's first T20 of the season and only Gleeson's second over of the season, when he started off, so an unfamiliar T20 side.
Having said that, I don't know much about Somerset; maybe they had half a team out as well.
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Post by alanw on Aug 26, 2021 21:19:07 GMT
Of course in some of our previous games we've been able to select Jennings and Buttler and the former but for injury would have been in the side tonight. It was Bohannon's first T20 of the season and only Gleeson's second over of the season, when he started off, so an unfamiliar T20 side. Having said that, I don't know much about Somerset; maybe they had half a team out as well. Somerset were without Devon Conway who's back with New Zealand, Craig Overton and Jack Leach on England duty so they were weakened but not as much as Lancashire. |
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Post by Dave Towers on Aug 26, 2021 21:23:28 GMT
Somerset were without Devon Conway who's back with New Zealand,
So maybe we can add Finn Allen as well! |
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Post by exile on Aug 26, 2021 21:39:16 GMT
No excuses. A great start thrown away by headless chicken batting. Yet another non-contribution from Davies and two batsmen getting stumped. 20 runs short of a competitive score. Awful tactics in the field. Bailey gets a wicket in the first over and is promptly taken off. Livingstone goes for 26 in two overs and is given a third. Wells concedes just 11 in two overs and doesn’t get another. Croft doesn’t bowl at all. Bailey, who is only effective with the white ball when it is new, is obligingly brought back in the 17th so that Somerset can win at a stroll. You’d think Lancs were complete beginners at T20!
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Post by redandrosy on Aug 26, 2021 21:55:44 GMT
A patched up side took it closer than I thought they would so credit for that.
A few thoughts:
Good to see Gleeson back I worried he was done. Bowled with decent pace but was obviously rusty. Without the 3 no balls he could have had a wicket and much better figures.
Has anyone else felt Milns has a problem with us. I've heard he does and his umpiring in our matches always back this up. Again stone cold lbw not given on Abel that changes the game.
Vilas loves to bowl Livingstone late on and always regrets it.
Bailey should bowl as many of his allocation early on in white ball cricket.
Our fielding is shocking. This is one area where coaching can make a difference and makes you wonder if Chapple and Chilton are the answer. It's a long time since I've seen a professional side as bad as we have been this summer. The home crowd were really laughing at our comedy performance.
Croft really took the impetus out of innings. I know he had a good knock against essex but he is seriously on the wane. 2022 could be a season too far probably better he walks away in September as an excellent servant to the club before performance levels dip to a level where he tarnishes his reputation.
Davies did is usual of chewing up a few ball before getting out. This after seemingly doing better for his franchise. Will we get much out of him for the remaining games?
One away win all season. Do we have a way of winning beyond big boundaries on a test ground on a used spinning track?
Always the championship and next year.
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Post by richard on Aug 27, 2021 9:27:03 GMT
Bailey should bowl as many of his allocation early on in white ball cricket. . Paul Allott used to bowl 6 of his overs at the start of a Sunday game. If he had conceded 12 it would have been a bad day. Then he would go off and come back at the end and would be no better than anyone else. Week after week. Year after year. The opposition would wait until he went off and then would let loose. If only, I thought, week after week he would bowl all his eight. No one ever asked for my opinion though. |
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Post by happy larry on Aug 27, 2021 14:47:01 GMT
Once livinstone was out so were lancs sad but true.
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Post by chris on Aug 28, 2021 10:00:49 GMT
The more I think about this. I wonder how many other counties would have simply selected the most senior 11 players from a squad of 15 and leave out the most junior 4:
Dane Vilas (C), Tom Bailey, George Balderson, Josh Bohannon, Steven Croft, Alex Davies, Richard Gleeson, Tom Hartley, Liam Hurt, Rob Jones, Danny Lamb, George Lavelle, Liam Livingstone, Jack Morley, Luke Wells
Hurt maybe older than Hartley (and several others) but experience wise he is behind most of that squad. Ok they were in a corner with so few players not available, but did they just go for experience?
and then have their fielding slammed.
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Post by alanw on Aug 28, 2021 11:03:31 GMT
I think the team selection was correct. Having seen Liam Hurt bowl in the Day Cup I would have picked Bailey and Gleeson ahead of him. Having said that I was concerned about the lack of match practice Richard Gleeson had following his injury. I would have picked Jack Morley if I had wanted an extra spinner but with the short boundary and the number of spin options in our team I think it was correct not to pick him. Using George Lavelle as wicket keeper would have meant dropping one of the batsmen which I wouldn't have done. That leaves George Balderson and I'm not sure I think before the game I would have stuck with Bailey, Gleeson and Lamb as the fast bowlers.
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Post by exile on Aug 28, 2021 14:49:22 GMT
Much as I would like to see Morley and Lavelle brought on, it's difficult to see how a slightly different team selection would have made much difference in this match. It was our tactics that did for us (plus a blind umpire).
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Post by chris on Aug 28, 2021 19:45:28 GMT
I think the team selection was correct. Having seen Liam Hurt bowl in the Day Cup I would have picked Bailey and Gleeson ahead of him. Having said that I was concerned about the lack of match practice Richard Gleeson had following his injury. I would have picked Jack Morley if I had wanted an extra spinner but with the short boundary and the number of spin options in our team I think it was correct not to pick him. Using George Lavelle as wicket keeper would have meant dropping one of the batsmen which I wouldn't have done. That leaves George Balderson and I'm not sure I think before the game I would have stuck with Bailey, Gleeson and Lamb as the fast bowlers. Much as I would like to see Morley and Lavelle brought on, it's difficult to see how a slightly different team selection would have made much difference in this match. It was our tactics that did for us (plus a blind umpire).
Looking on a case by case basis ok I agree alan but in a different situation if your "best 11" players means your tail starts at 8 you surely have to make adjustments. Too many players who should not be near to the T20 side as far as I’m concerned. Can’t hide too many in the field To an extent, exile, surely, tactics follow selection. |
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Post by exile on Aug 29, 2021 11:58:11 GMT
It is true that tactical options are limited by the ability of the selected players but I don't think that explains our kamikaze batting. I know Livingstone got out to an exceptional c&b but he should have known to take a look instead of just carrying on slogging when Somerset brought on Van de Merwe and there was no excuse for two batsmen getting stumped at a time when we were scoring faster than 10 an over. As for our bowling, we all know that Tom Bailey is only effective with the white ball while it is hard. He should have bowled at the top of the innings exclusively. Bringing him back when Vilas did was effectively a surrender. Wells has proved to be an effective off-spinner in OD cricket but after two tight overs was taken off. In spite of being tonked for 21 by Harmer, Croft has been very economical in white ball this season but he wasn't used at all.
That said, we would probably have won anyway if Abel had been given out lbw, as he obviously should have been.
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