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Post by exile on Sept 23, 2023 15:42:52 GMT
What on earth is Chilton talking about saying that "the bowlers have to improve"? Our bowlers were good enough to bowl out Surrey at The Oval but couldn't even bowl out Northants (whom they overwhelmed at Wantage Road) on our pudding of a pitch.
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Post by exile on Sept 23, 2023 15:44:54 GMT
What on earth is Chilton talking about saying that "the bowlers have to improve"? Our bowlers were good enough to bowl out Surrey at The Oval but couldn't even bowl out Northants (whom they overwhelmed at Wantage Road) on our pudding of a pitch. I'm seriously thinking of not renewing my membership. |
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Signings
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Post by Gareth Platt on Sept 24, 2023 7:17:56 GMT
I believe debt is around £30m but Lancs can generate a lot of income from non-cricket activities. It's a pity that hotel extension wasn't completed for any for the internationals. Yeah. I think the financial situation is fair enough given we've got an entirely new ground out of it. Am no fan of the design of the new developnents, but they were absolutely necessary and have put us in a good position for the future. If it means playing the kids for a couple of years, then fine. As long as we don't end up playing Croft and other ageing stop gaps (no disrespect to them, but we should be focusing on the future in all selections). Looks like a lot of the older squad players (Lamb, Jones etc) are moving on, which is probably a good move for all parties. Would rather someone like Hurst got a chance. |
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Post by man in the stand on Sept 24, 2023 9:38:20 GMT
What on earth is Chilton talking about saying that "the bowlers have to improve"? Our bowlers were good enough to bowl out Surrey at The Oval but couldn't even bowl out Northants (whom they overwhelmed at Wantage Road) on our pudding of a pitch. Better pitches would help but you still need the bowlers to exploit it. At the moment we are a bit short of them... |
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Post by MickeyG on Sept 24, 2023 12:16:08 GMT
It does seem like a fair enough approach to go with our younger players going forward given the money situation mentioned above due to the necessary ground improvements. And we have some good ones by the looks of things. Yep, they will need time, and they will be inconsistent. I think we as fans from what I read on here are very patient with young players in general and give good support.
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Post by exile on Sept 25, 2023 10:40:41 GMT
What on earth is Chilton talking about saying that "the bowlers have to improve"? Our bowlers were good enough to bowl out Surrey at The Oval but couldn't even bowl out Northants (whom they overwhelmed at Wantage Road) on our pudding of a pitch. Better pitches would help but you still need the bowlers to exploit it. At the moment we are a bit short of them...
Well that's true MITS: we all agree that management bungling has left us short of a genuine quickie and a really good spinner but Chilton seemed to be saying that the pitches are not a problem and that the reason we have won no matches at OT is that the bowlers aren't good enough, even though they have been good enough to win at other grounds. Does he think we drew the first game because the Surrey bowlers weren't good enough? The fact is that no-one has won any red ball matches at OT this year and, in any season, a red ball win at OT is a rare event. |
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Post by happy larry on Sept 25, 2023 10:46:32 GMT
Mark chilton wtf is he , Never made a run the year we won the leauge yet 12 years on hes still here making fooked up decisions at the club ,Need to get shut ASAP . Hows he still employed
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Post by happy larry on Sept 25, 2023 10:50:59 GMT
last time we won the leauge with played at aigburth every week . A result wicket unlike that load of s///te at Old trafford ,Bowlers arent good enough he says . Best pair in the country given the right tracks to bowl on |
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Post by oldhamexile on Sept 25, 2023 11:05:39 GMT
It does insult the intelligence (and the bowlers) to suggest the pitches haven't played a part in our inability to win games at OT.
If I'm at home watching a stream I'll often choose a game from another county over a game at OT because of the dull, attritional cricket the wicket encourages.
Surrey have produced "gamey" pitches this season in recognition of their 5 man pace attack. They are great wickets, good batters can score on them but good bowlers are always in the game.
It is a shame we aren't run half as well as Surrey. If we had good leaders at Lancashire they would recognise that fact and try and learn from the best counties in the country.
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Post by man in the stand on Sept 25, 2023 14:11:48 GMT
last time we won the leauge with played at aigburth every week . A result wicket unlike that load of s///te at Old trafford ,Bowlers arent good enough he says . Best pair in the country given the right tracks to bowl on
So far this season, on a minimum of 180 overs bowled, we have just two... |
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Post by exile on Sept 26, 2023 17:58:25 GMT
That's true, of course, but it's not really comparing like with like. Also there's a difference between saying that we need more good bowlers (which we obviously do) and saying that the present bowlers have "got to improve", as if all they lack is discipline and motivation. Blaming the players is just a way of not taking responsibility.
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Post by chris on Sept 28, 2023 13:58:20 GMT
If Lancs don't bowl again this season:
Morley 108 overs 8 wickets average 42
Wells 73 overs 10 wickets average 26 (1 wicket since bigged up as a front line spinner)
Hartley 286 overs 19 wickets average 44 (BB 2-10)
Blatherwick 87 overs 8 wickets average 49
Balderson 235 overs 10 wickets average 34
Wood 60 overs 5 wickets average 41
2nd division really
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Post by exile on Sept 28, 2023 14:19:09 GMT
Not great, to say the least, but signing an overseas batter is obviously the way to go...
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Post by chris on Oct 3, 2023 13:16:17 GMT
2023/2024 close season: 7 players out (so far), 1 in, 1 promised (so far) Parkinson, Jones, Lamb, Gleeson, Mitchell, Vilas, de Grandhomme Stanley + promised overseas bat promised.
Not sure where to put this so will add here:
This season Most runs scored by batsmen since 2016 (there were 16 matches): 6592
Least wickets taken by bowlers (excluding the coronavirus season) probably ever as used to play more matches: 202
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Oct 18, 2023 18:06:46 GMT
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Post by redandrosy on Oct 18, 2023 18:06:46 GMT
Advanced talks with Nathan Lyon for a large part of the season.
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