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Post by MarkG on Aug 25, 2024 14:15:19 GMT
Given that a defeat looked pretty much nailed on from once the we saw the team they carded, I wonder if that was the plan: give the kids a run out in a game we’re likely to lose anyway, select a stronger XI for games we might actually win. Sad, if so, but you wonder.
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Post by slipstream on Aug 25, 2024 14:43:22 GMT
Looking at Durham who have won, see a Manchester born bowler Daniel Hogg playing his first f/c game takes 8 wickets at 12.50 econ 2.98
( 8.3-2-34-1 & 25-7-66-7). Same match as Stone 20.2-1-109-1
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Post by Admin on Aug 25, 2024 16:09:39 GMT
Surrey 444 for 9 dec (Burns 227, Foakes 82) beat Lancashire 204 (Clark 4-57) and 177 (Hurst 64, McKerr 4-27, Worrall 3-34, Clark 3-43) by an innings and 63 runs
Title favourites Surrey took less than two sessions on day four to bowl out Lancashire for 177 at the Kia Oval to complete an impressive innings and 63-run victory.
Conor McKerr polished off Lancashire’s tail to finish with four for 27 while Dan Worrall and Jordan Clark picked up three wickets apiece as long-time Division One leaders Surrey, champions in 2022 and 2023, made it seven wins from ten Vitality County Championship matches this season. It is another big step for Surrey towards a third title in a row.
Matty Hurst, Lancashire’s highly-rated 20-year-old wicketkeeper-batsman, tried hard to hold up Surrey by adding a fine 64 to a first innings 46 in what is only his 12th first-class appearance but there was never any real doubt about the eventual result as wickets fell regularly.
Lancashire resumed still 214 runs adrift on 26 for one from 11.1 overs, after a rain-hit third day had seemingly given them a chance of escaping with a draw, but lost their last nine wickets for 151 runs as Surrey’s five-man pace attack proved too hot for them to handle for the second time in the game.
Worrall, the championship’s leading wicket-taker with 40 at an average of only 15.55 runs apiece, made the initial breakthroughs by dismissing Lancashire captain Keaton Jennings for 13 and 16-year-old debutant Rocky Flintoff in successive balls in the fifth full over of the morning.
First, coming from around the wicket to left-hander Jennings, he swung one back into the former England Test opener who offered no shot and saw the ball thud into the top of his off stump.
And another fine piece of bowling by Worrall immediately inflicted a first ball duck on young Flintoff, who had batted so promisingly for 32 on day one as Lancashire’s youngest first-class cricketer.
Pushing forward to an outswinger that also bounced perhaps more than he expected, Flintoff edged to keeper Ben Foakes who took an excellent diving catch in front of first slip.
That left Lancashire 33 for three and they soon declined further to 82 for five as Josh Bohannon chopped a short, rising ball from Clark into his stumps to go for 29 and George Balderson edged a returning Worrall to second slip on four.
Hurst, however, was then joined by Venkatesh Iyer in a sixth wicket stand of 36 that at least took Lancashire through to lunch, with Iyer even having the temerity to flip Worrall over the short legside boundary for six.
Yet it took only two balls after the interval for Surrey to break the stand, with Iyer (15) nibbling at Clark outside off stump and thin-edging through to Foakes.
Tom Hartley also offered some lower resistance, battling through a testing spell from Sam Curran in which he was beaten several times before hitting Will Jacks’ off spin over long on for six.
Hurst, though, was disgusted with himself for clipping the first ball of McKerr’s second spell – an innocuous loosener – straight into Ryan Patel’s hands at mid wicket after a defiant 116-ball stay featuring seven fours.
And the end was nigh when McKerr took two more wickets in his eighth over, Tom Aspinwall (6) lofting a full toss straight to mid off and Josh Boyden losing his off stump to depart for a second-ball duck.
Hartley was last man out, for 22, fending McKerr to Patel at short leg just after 3pm. Worrall finished with three for 34 while Clark took his own season’s championship wicket tally to 32 with his three for 43.
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Post by alanw on Aug 25, 2024 16:48:18 GMT
I assume there’s an agreement between the club and certain players with no obvious route into the Test team for various reasons - Buttler, Livingstone, Wood, Salt - that they will only turn out for us in T20 when they’re in the shop window that matters to them and only in the CC when they fancy it, hence hardly at all. |
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Post by Phil on Aug 25, 2024 19:21:22 GMT
I assume there’s an agreement between the club and certain players with no obvious route into the Test team for various reasons - Buttler, Livingstone, Wood, Salt - that they will only turn out for us in T20 when they’re in the shop window that matters to them and only in the CC when they fancy it, hence hardly at all. I heard Bailey missed the Surrey game because his missus is expecting |
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Post by sillypoint on Aug 26, 2024 8:45:35 GMT
As I suspected, men against boys. Bohannon has a habit of playing on, so not sure all bad luck but perhaps a technique problem. Iyer might have been alright for T20, but looks like a fish out of water in FC cricket. He'll probably play against Hampshire but shouldn't do. He's batting at no.7 where Flintoff should be playing. We're asking an awful lot of a 16-year-old.
Hurst the one shining light out of this depressing season. I suspect we'll shortly lose him to either England or another county. Wouldn't be surprised to see Balderson leave either. I think he's a very good player, who's been dragged down by the general malaise.
No word at all from the hierarchy. We deserve to know what exactly are their plans, if they have any, for this team.
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Post by John W on Aug 26, 2024 8:50:39 GMT
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Post by alanw on Aug 26, 2024 9:03:00 GMT
Sounds like Bailey will be back for the Hampshire game but not Saqib or Salt.
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Post by lancsdes on Aug 26, 2024 9:03:18 GMT
That’s a real confidence boost “we certainly aren’t going to go into any game, not aiming to get the maximum number of points we can” .
As a previous poster has said, the cricketing hierarchy there, and the players themselves prioritise anything but the four day game.
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Post by MarkG on Aug 26, 2024 9:20:41 GMT
Thanks for posting. And no, it doesn’t me either. It sounds like the coach is betting the farm on winning the Blast QF and we’re currently aiming everything at that. I read on cricinfo that he’s ‘had contact’ with Buttler who ‘wants to play’. What an odd way to have to coach a team, doing it by WhatsApp. QF is particularly fascinating, as if we win it then Finals Day in in the midst of the Aussie T20 series, so our players in the squad for that - certainly Buttler/Livingstone/Salt, possibly Wood/Saqib/Hartley - will miss that. The cricinfo piece (which I couldn’t post here) seemed to suggest that getting to Finals Day then hoping for the best would excuse our failings in the other competitions. Certainly seems as though it’s fingers crossed for us surviving in division 1- hoping out of touch seniors can come good, hoping untried youngsters can do enough, so we get the points we need. What a very strange way to run what - I presume - still considers itself as one of the major counties. |
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Post by John W on Aug 26, 2024 9:34:41 GMT
Thanks for posting. And no, it doesn’t me either. It sounds like the coach is betting the farm on winning the Blast QF and we’re currently aiming everything at that. I read on cricinfo that he’s ‘had contact’ with Buttler who ‘wants to play’. What an odd way to have to coach a team, doing it by WhatsApp. QF is particularly fascinating, as if we win it then Finals Day in in the midst of the Aussie T20 series, so our players in the squad for that - certainly Buttler/Livingstone/Salt, possibly Wood/Saqib/Hartley - will miss that. The cricinfo piece (which I couldn’t post here) seemed to suggest that getting to Finals Day then hoping for the best would excuse our failings in the other competitions. Certainly seems as though it’s fingers crossed for us surviving in division 1- hoping out of touch seniors can come good, hoping untried youngsters can do enough, so we get the points we need. What a very strange way to run what - I presume - still considers itself as one of the major counties. Mark, I have posted the ESPN cricinfo piece on the White Ball 2024 page. |
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Post by lancsdes on Aug 26, 2024 9:37:27 GMT
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Post by Admin on Aug 26, 2024 10:41:22 GMT
Thanks for posting. And no, it doesn’t me either. It sounds like the coach is betting the farm on winning the Blast QF and we’re currently aiming everything at that. I read on cricinfo that he’s ‘had contact’ with Buttler who ‘wants to play’. What an odd way to have to coach a team, doing it by WhatsApp. QF is particularly fascinating, as if we win it then Finals Day in in the midst of the Aussie T20 series, so our players in the squad for that - certainly Buttler/Livingstone/Salt, possibly Wood/Saqib/Hartley - will miss that. The cricinfo piece (which I couldn’t post here) seemed to suggest that getting to Finals Day then hoping for the best would excuse our failings in the other competitions. Certainly seems as though it’s fingers crossed for us surviving in division 1- hoping out of touch seniors can come good, hoping untried youngsters can do enough, so we get the points we need. What a very strange way to run what - I presume - still considers itself as one of the major counties. Mark, I have posted the ESPN cricinfo piece on the White Ball 2024 page.Never mind cricket, how many concerts can we have next year?!!!!! |
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Post by John W on Aug 26, 2024 16:14:34 GMT
Never mind cricket, how many concerts can we have next year?!!!!! Oasis from April till the end of September with a month's break in August for the hundread!...BTW I actually saw Oasis play at OT back in 2002! |
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Post by Admin on Aug 26, 2024 16:25:58 GMT
Never mind cricket, how many concerts can we have next year?!!!!! Oasis from April till the end of September with a month's break in August for the hundread!...BTW I actually saw Oasis play at OT back in 2002!Definitely, maybe on that then!!!!!!!! |
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