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Post by Rob on Aug 31, 2024 11:24:02 GMT
Two down already. Looking like an early finish at home.....
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Post by exile on Aug 31, 2024 12:22:12 GMT
Much better by Wells this time round - no booming cover drives and no attempt to keep on reverse-sweeping Dawson. Flintoff seems to have learned his lesson from yesterday and is batting properly. Jennings seems to be a bit short of confidence lately; didn't seem to know what to do once Brown decided to stand up. Bohannon a bit unlucky but he did play down the wrong line. The next session will probably decide the outcome.
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Post by Rob on Aug 31, 2024 13:17:53 GMT
Four down for 44 following on at home.
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Post by John W on Aug 31, 2024 13:22:46 GMT
Four down for 44 following on at home. And after winning the toss. |
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Post by alanw on Aug 31, 2024 15:22:06 GMT
Notts putting up a fight against Surrey. If they get a draw it will open up a significant gap between us.
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Post by exile on Aug 31, 2024 16:44:50 GMT
Lost by an innings on a flat pitch after winning the toss. Credit to Hampshire, especially Dawson, but really they had nothing to beat.
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Post by anyportinastorm on Aug 31, 2024 17:03:13 GMT
Have Chilton and Benkenstein resigned yet?
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Post by Admin on Sept 1, 2024 6:57:21 GMT
Hampshire 389 (Middleton 109, Dawson 104*, Gubbins 75, Wells 4-94) beat Lancashire 200 (Jennings 56, Dawson 5-47) and 152 (Wells 51, Dawson 5-52) by an innings and 37 runs
Hampshire wrapped up an innings and 37 run victory on the third day of this Vitality County Championship match after making Lancashire follow-on and then bowling the hosts out for 152 runs in their second innings.
The defeat increases Red Rose relegation worries with Lancashire remaining in ninth place on 106 points with three games to play.
It took Hampshire just nine deliveries to take the two remaining first innings wickets when Lancashire resumed the day on 193 for eight with seven runs added as George Bell (35) and Tom Aspinwall (0) fell to John Turner and Liam Dawson respectively, the latter finishing with a season best 5 for 47 to add to his century on the second day.
The visitors, leading by 189 runs, enforced the follow-on and made early inroads into the Lancashire second innings with both Keaton Jennings (1) and Josh Bohannon (0) lbw to Muhammad Abbas and Turner respectively.
Luke Wells and Rocky Flintoff prevented any further loss to reach lunch on 34 for two but a determined 53-ball effort Flintoff ended soon after the resumption when he edged a good length ball from Abbas that left him off the pitch to be caught behind for 8. He was soon followed by Matty Hurst who was bowled by nicely flighted delivery from Dawson for 0.
That left Lancashire on 44 for four but a gritty 20-over alliance between Wells and Bell doubled that total and stalled the Hampshire victory push until just before tea when both batters departed in quick succession.
That began a slow but steady fall of wickets that saw the last six fall for 64 runs in 24 overs.
James Fuller snared Bell for 21 (from 70 balls) from an inside edge onto his thigh pad that ballooned up to Fletcha Middleton at short leg while Wells, having just reached his half century from 143 balls in three and a half hours of resolute batting, saw his defensive shot to a Dawson slower ball spin off the pitch and onto his stumps for 51.
Venkatesh Iyer, in his final match, thumped a six and 4 fours in attacking 27-ball cameo of 35 before chopping on to Dawson and Balderson slashed a drive to second slip off Abbas for 10.
Appropriately the excellent Dawson completed a convincing victory by taking the final two wickets of Tom Hartley and Tom Bailey to finish with a second five-wicket haul of 5 for 52 and match figures of 10-99.
Points: Lancashire 3, Hampshire 22.
“It’s very disappointing,” reflected Head Coach Dale Benkenstein.
“The Surrey game you put down to playing the champions and a very good side. But in the first division you are coming up against good sides every week.
“I think there’s a lot of opportunity we are giving our players, and really there’s no excuses over the last three days. I think we had a fantastic pitch and a first day position where we could have got them 300 all out. That last wicket partnership really hurt us, mentally as well.
“Credit to them, their bowling was incredibly disciplined over a long period of time, but I still think that the pitch was good enough for us to be able to combat that. We haven’t been good enough and that’s disappointing.
“We lack a bit of quality and experience, and I think that one or two players does make a difference. You are hoping for people to step up and generally over time they will, but no one is really putting in the performances having been given the opportunity. You are also expecting your senior players to perform and isn’t happening either so it’s a combination of where we are at the minute as a team. There’s a bit of a lack of performance which probably comes with a lack of confidence.”
“There’s a lot of learning going on, and sometimes that hurts a bit but I’m hoping to see improvement over the next few games and that’s all we can really do. Keep trying to move forward. At the moment we are saying all the right things, but we’ve got to go and do it out in the middle and we’re not doing it at moment.
“I think we have got the players to do it, but it’s about us resetting a bit. The T20 quarter-final will be good for us to change the mindset a bit. There will be a lot of positive energy going into that, and that will also give us a bit of time to reset. Come back and play these last three games as well as we can.”
“We are trying to get a fast bowler over the line at the moment which I think would really help us get twenty wickets, and having a bit of pace and experience in the attack would be helpful for these last three matches.
“That has been the plan for these last five games. It hasn’t quite worked out but it looks like we may have an overseas player coming in which will give us a bit of a boost.”
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Post by John W on Sept 1, 2024 7:53:32 GMT
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Post by ian on Sept 1, 2024 8:08:41 GMT
That's it is it that's the plan to save us from relegation? Get a fast bowler over the line whatever that means, get to T20 finals day and hope for a new overseas player!
What about picking a better more experienced team, surely not all of Salt, Mahmood, Livingston, Butler,are injured, need a rest from Hundred, prevented from playing by ECB?
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Post by oldhamexile on Sept 1, 2024 9:09:59 GMT
I feel very despondent about our chances of survival after such an abysmal and comprehensive defeat. I would suggest that if you pick such a defensive, unbalanced team with only three out and out bowlers you begin the game mired with a meek, negative approach to a game of cricket.
The appointment of Benkenstein, which looked unfathomable at the time, just cannot be supported at this point of the season. If this was football (and in many ways I'm glad it is not) he would be given his marching orders and we would bring in someone on a short contract who could at least motivate the dressing room for the remaining championship games and provide the clarity of thought which is evidently missing at present.
There is a strong argument for removing the coach, or at least bringing someone in to "provide him with support". If it doesn't happen it's hard to believe anything will change on the playing field before the end of the season.
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Post by exile on Sept 1, 2024 9:12:06 GMT
Benkenstein's meaningless interview fails to answer some basic questions:
1. Why did Lancs not sign a genuinely fast bowler at the end of last season when that was the obvious gap in the team?
2. Why are the internationals in the squad not playing in the CC?
3. Why have so many players gone backwards since last season?
4. Who thinks Hartley (4 wickets in 6 innings) is an adequate replacement for Parkinson (27 wickets in 13 innings)?
No doubt this is because he wants to keep his job.
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Post by sillypoint on Sept 1, 2024 9:14:31 GMT
Congratulations to Anson, Chilton and Benkenstein! We've just broken a record that has stood for 117 years. Unfortunately that record is that it's the first time we've lost successive championship matches by an innings since 1907!
Even our good players are being dragged down by the malaise at the club. Jennings, for the first time, is visibly showing his frustration. Unless things drastically change, I can't see him signing a new contract.
Whilst a new bowler would be welcome, it seems pretty obvious to me that we more badly need a new batsman, indeed probably two, and batsmen are probably easier to get.
In the U19 tests against Sri Lanka, McCann of Notts, Flintoff & Fonseka all batted very well. Flintoff is stuggling, Fonseka isn't playing yet McCann has just scored 154 for Notts, batting at no.3 against the champions elect. Go Figure!
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Post by MarkG on Sept 1, 2024 10:12:18 GMT
“Not sure I agree with this. Lancs have brought through loads of young players, and most of them are still new to the team, so hard to say whether we're developing them properly. Bohannon and Balderson have both flourished, although the former is struggling this year.I also agree with the 'play the kids' policy. Counties exist to serve the England team, so should be prioritising young players over journeyman signings from other countries. And I can understand why we're prioritising the T20 over the Championship, given the relative financial value of the two comps.” I agree with what you say about Bosh and Baldy, and Matty Hurst is the supreme example oh how this can work. Set against this, over recent years we have coughed up loads of proper players who have been eagerly snapped up elsewhere and seemed to have broken at least two major talents in Parkinson and Hameed.; I too like the ‘play the kids’ policy, but it must be within reason, and expecting too much too soon is every but as damaging as not giving them a go - I think this has happened to George Bell who really should’ve been properly rested (as opposed to sitting out one game at Surrey) once he seemed to have declined after a difficulty first two months of the season. I worry hugely about 16 year old Flintoff at 4. I’m sure judging where and when to play a youngster is one of the hardest aspects of selection. But Lancs do seem particularly bad at it. I can’t see why we wouldn’t expect to be a success in both long and short formats. For all our current difficulties we are an historically powerful county with huge inherent strengths in the leagues, and income streams that most counties simply do not have. I think not making the most of that is a huge failing in this regime continuing on the back of other regimes. But in the end, one (outright) championship win in 90 years and one white ball win in 25 years suggests that whatever we”re prioritising it isn’t winning trophies. |
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Post by exile on Sept 1, 2024 10:57:15 GMT
Congratulations to Anson, Chilton and Benkenstein! We've just broken a record that has stood for 117 years. Unfortunately that record is that it's the first time we've lost successive championship matches by an innings since 1907! Even our good players are being dragged down by the malaise at the club. Jennings, for the first time, is visibly showing his frustration. Unless things drastically change, I can't see him signing a new contract. Whilst a new bowler would be welcome, it seems pretty obvious to me that we more badly need a new batsman, indeed probably two, and batsmen are probably easier to get. In the U19 tests against Sri Lanka, McCann of Notts, Flintoff & Fonseka all batted very well. Flintoff is stuggling, Fonseka isn't playing yet McCann has just scored 154 for Notts, batting at no.3 against the champions elect. Go Figure! |
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