Overseas Players

[chris]

Jun 22, 2022 7:48:56 GMT denno97 said:

Jun 21, 2022 21:00:48 GMT chris said:

Yes been injured or is in recovery, but he is not due to play before 31 July (for the one-day warm up against Cumbria).

Leaves the question who, if anyone, is being lined up for the 3 championship matches in July, as Williams is only on a two match deal but should play against Gloucestershire at the end of June.

Don’t know where it says that Sundar is only available from the 31st of June. By all accounts they aren’t picking him on the India vs England white ball squads because they want him to play red ball cricket for us. Games at Southport and Northants where I think we’ll play 2 spinners

Just a guess on my part, looking at the fixtures, probably wrong, I assumed the three championship matches he will be available for were the last three, as they just stuck out to me.  Only later realised there were also 3 in July which he might be available for.   Either way there are 3 left without an overseas.

[denno97]

Jun 22, 2022 9:25:25 GMT chris said:

Jun 22, 2022 7:48:56 GMT denno97 said:

Don’t know where it says that Sundar is only available from the 31st of June. By all accounts they aren’t picking him on the India vs England white ball squads because they want him to play red ball cricket for us. Games at Southport and Northants where I think we’ll play 2 spinners

Just a guess on my part, looking at the fixtures, probably wrong, I assumed the three championship matches he will be available for were the last three, as they just stuck out to me.  Only later realised there were also 3 in July which he might be available for.   Either way there are 3 left without an overseas.

Think we wait to see where we are in the table before bringing someone in. No point wasting money on an overseas for what could be 3 dead rubbers

[alanw]

Are we going to sign an overseas for the championship run in? Think our position justifies it. We could do with a Washington Sundar clone.

[denno97]

Aug 30, 2022 18:00:13 GMT alanw said:

Are we going to sign an overseas for the championship run in? Think our position justifies it. We could do with a Washington Sundar clone.

We’ve got the real Washington Sundar signed up if he’s fit enough to come back.

[John W]

Aug 30, 2022 18:00:13 GMT alanw said:

Are we going to sign an overseas for the championship run in? Think our position justifies it. We could do with a Washington Sundar clone.


A couple of weeks ago Lancashire did say that Sundar had gone back to India for treatment on his shoulder with a view that if fit he will return to OT in September to play CC cricket.

[Phil]

Why is Vilas still considered an overseas player when he has lived here for years? There are other players who get away with it.

[alanw]

Aug 30, 2022 18:28:18 GMT John W said:

Aug 30, 2022 18:00:13 GMT alanw said:

Are we going to sign an overseas for the championship run in? Think our position justifies it. We could do with a Washington Sundar clone.


A couple of weeks ago Lancashire did say that Sundar had gone back to India for treatment on his shoulder with a view that if fit he will return to OT in September to play CC cricket.

Would be great if Sundar does come back and play in the last three championship games.

[chris]

I would be amazed if this sort of arrangement is not available for Vilas:

"Karvelas is not an overseas player but is one year away from being England-qualified. He is currently registered through pre-settled status."

From the cricketer.com article on Sussex's latest signing

[denno97]

Oct 7, 2022 7:01:24 GMT chris said:

I would be amazed if this sort of arrangement is not available for Vilas:

"Karvelas is not an overseas player but is one year away from being England-qualified. He is currently registered through pre-settled status."

From the cricketer.com article on Sussex's latest signing

I could be wrong but I imagine it’s harder/impossible for Vilas to become English qualified because he played test cricket for SA?

[chris]

Oct 7, 2022 7:36:34 GMT denno97 said:

Oct 7, 2022 7:01:24 GMT chris said:

I would be amazed if this sort of arrangement is not available for Vilas:

"Karvelas is not an overseas player but is one year away from being England-qualified. He is currently registered through pre-settled status."

From the cricketer.com article on Sussex's latest signing

I could be wrong but I imagine it’s harder/impossible for Vilas to become English qualified because he played test cricket for SA?

Probably but doesn't that mean that sentence can be re-written as, say:

"Vilas is not an overseas player but is five years away from being England-qualified. He is currently registered through pre-settled status."

The pre-settled statues is a Home Office term not a cricket term, but it appears cricket accepts those with pre-settled status as qualified to play at county level as a local rather than overseas player.  Unless pre-settled status is for EU nationals only.

[denno97]

Oct 7, 2022 15:02:27 GMT chris said:

Oct 7, 2022 7:36:34 GMT denno97 said:

I could be wrong but I imagine it’s harder/impossible for Vilas to become English qualified because he played test cricket for SA?

Probably but doesn't that mean that sentence can be re-written as, say:

"Vilas is not an overseas player but is five years away from being England-qualified. He is currently registered through pre-settled status."

The pre-settled statues is a Home Office term not a cricket term, but it appears cricket accepts those with pre-settled status as qualified to play at county level as a local rather than overseas player.  Unless pre-settled status is for EU nationals only.

Think it’s just for EU nationals/passport holders. Got a feeling Du Plooy at Derby is a similar case as well as the numerous South Africans in the Dutch side playing county cricket.