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Post by Admin on Aug 31, 2021 19:30:58 GMT
Apparently 2 rounds of the RLC played in the UAE in March
First 2 weeks in April RLC
Mid April to end of May CC
July CC
June Blast
August Pub Game
September CC
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Post by alanw on Aug 31, 2021 20:14:41 GMT
Wonder what format the championship will take. I would prefer to go back to the old two division system rather than the current conference system.
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Post by chris on Aug 31, 2021 21:17:55 GMT
Wonder what format the championship will take. I would prefer to go back to the old two division system rather than the current conference system.
More likely change back for 2023 so that everyone knows where the goal posts are at the start of the division stage next year rather than announce something now.
Division 1 into Division 1
Top 2 or 3 of Division 2 into Division 1
Maybe even Top 1 of Division 3 into 1
Stops all the complaints that nothing to be played in these end of season matches. |
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Post by man in the stand on Sept 1, 2021 11:32:15 GMT
RL50 being marginalized even further. Going to cost a fair bit moving all the counties' staff etc over there. Could be televised - UAE 3 hours ahead - but another cost for someone to bear.
If the Hundred is the future then looks like the RLO will suffer...perhaps cut down to a knock out competition?
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Post by alanw on Sept 1, 2021 11:53:30 GMT
All the players not involved in the Hundred will be able to take a summer holiday in August, bit of a novelty for a professional cricketer.
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Post by richard on Sept 1, 2021 13:35:40 GMT
Apparently 2 rounds of the RLC played in the UAE in March First 2 weeks in April RLC Mid April to end of May CC July CC June Blast August Pub Game September CC Have you got June and July the wrong way around? Either way If I thought that meant that there was going to be at least two CC games at OT involving weekends in July (or June) I could almost live with that. A Saturday start with a couple of days off work (someone else can walk the dog), and then one day at weekend at the other game. Watch the Blast and have August on the beach (well I can dream!) . The problem is that there will no doubt be a Test /ODI and a Concert and we will be lucky to get one midweek game where you get eardrums battered and dust filled lungs due to building works. Pity about the RLC though. I have to admit that’s been my least favourite form of the game for a number of years now, but I was planning to give it another go. Had Tickets for the Worcester game !!!! Won’t be going to the UAE. |
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Post by Admin on Sept 1, 2021 14:08:51 GMT
Apparently 2 rounds of the RLC played in the UAE in March First 2 weeks in April RLC Mid April to end of May CC July CC June Blast August Pub Game September CC Have you got June and July the wrong way around? Either way If I thought that meant that there was going to be at least two CC games at OT involving weekends in July (or June) I could almost live with that. A Saturday start with a couple of days off work (someone else can walk the dog), and then one day at weekend at the other game. Watch the Blast and have August on the beach (well I can dream!) . The problem is that there will no doubt be a Test /ODI and a Concert and we will be lucky to get one midweek game where you get eardrums battered and dust filled lungs due to building works. Pity about the RLC though. I have to admit that’s been my least favourite form of the game for a number of years now, but I was planning to give it another go. Had Tickets for the Worcester game !!!! Won’t be going to the UAE. That’s the way I saw it makes sense given Test Cricket in August |
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Post by richard on Sept 1, 2021 15:41:30 GMT
I propose that every year, no later than December 31st, England select, say, 18 players.
For the following year, these are England players. Paid by England and with little contact with their county. In exceptional circumstances with the full agreement of both England and the county they might play a one off game. England are not allowed to select outside that squad except due to injury and in such circumstances must compensate the county involved with a large payment. They may take a player on a winter tour provided that it is played entirely outside the English season. This gives new players the chance to integrate and to be assessed.
The counties can then plan around that without worrying about who is available from game to game, or about who is too exhausted (or distracted) to play well for their county. It doesn’t solve the problem of England destroying a player’s confidence for ever of course, but it gives the county game a semblance of respect.
Also that counties can only sign overseas players up to the limit of the highest allowed in any individual tournament and that no other overseas players can be signed in the season. If a player then fails to meet his obligations (except in the case of injury) then he is excluded from county cricket for say 3 further years.
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Post by alanw on Sept 1, 2021 16:42:09 GMT
I propose that every year, no later than December 31st, England select, say, 18 players. For the following year, these are England players. Paid by England and with little contact with their county. In exceptional circumstances with the full agreement of both England and the county they might play a one off game. England are not allowed to select outside that squad except due to injury and in such circumstances must compensate the county involved with a large payment. They may take a player on a winter tour provided that it is played entirely outside the English season. This gives new players the chance to integrate and to be assessed. The counties can then plan around that without worrying about who is available from game to game, or about who is too exhausted (or distracted) to play well for their county. It doesn’t solve the problem of England destroying a player’s confidence for ever of course, but it gives the county game a semblance of respect. Also that counties can only sign overseas players up to the limit of the highest allowed in any individual tournament and that no other overseas players can be signed in the season. If a player then fails to meet his obligations (except in the case of injury) then he is excluded from county cricket for say 3 further years.
I agree something needs to be done about overseas players but with the amount of cricket played you can't go back to the days where a county would have the same overseas player year after year, Clive at Lancs, Richards, Garner at Somerset, Hadlee at Notts, Imran Khan at Sussex, etc. |
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Post by richard on Sept 1, 2021 17:12:14 GMT
I propose that every year, no later than December 31st, England select, say, 18 players. For the following year, these are England players. Paid by England and with little contact with their county. In exceptional circumstances with the full agreement of both England and the county they might play a one off game. England are not allowed to select outside that squad except due to injury and in such circumstances must compensate the county involved with a large payment. They may take a player on a winter tour provided that it is played entirely outside the English season. This gives new players the chance to integrate and to be assessed. The counties can then plan around that without worrying about who is available from game to game, or about who is too exhausted (or distracted) to play well for their county. It doesn’t solve the problem of England destroying a player’s confidence for ever of course, but it gives the county game a semblance of respect. Also that counties can only sign overseas players up to the limit of the highest allowed in any individual tournament and that no other overseas players can be signed in the season. If a player then fails to meet his obligations (except in the case of injury) then he is excluded from county cricket for say 3 further years.
I agree something needs to be done about overseas players but with the amount of cricket played you can't go back to the days where a county would have the same overseas player year after year, Clive at Lancs, Richards, Garner at Somerset, Hadlee at Notts, Imran Khan at Sussex, etc.I have to say that personally I don’t care about the England team, but you could have, say 16 players for every format then at least the counties would know who they could choose in each format. As much as I would like go back to those days with overseas players, I am not actually proposing it. It’s a one season contract and even then you might sign three for the Blast and two or one or whatever it is for the others leaving the spare players to depart when not contracted for say the CC. |
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Post by richard on Sept 1, 2021 17:22:39 GMT
Going back to the point about 18 across all formats being very restrictive, do other countries use as many different players? I don’t know the answer to that question but I suspect it may be no.
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Post by alanw on Sept 2, 2021 9:56:33 GMT
Going back to the point about 18 across all formats being very restrictive, do other countries use as many different players? I don’t know the answer to that question but I suspect it may be no. I think other countries tend to have shorter domestic seasons with fewer first class teams. For example Australia have 6x teams in the Sheffield Shield who play 8x four day games and they have their T20 big bash. So there is less overlap between domestic and international cricket as I understand it. |
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Post by oldhamexile on Sept 2, 2021 10:55:01 GMT
In Australia it certainly used to be the case that State players would be drawn from grade cricket so you would have an almost inexhaustible source of players but that might be different now. For me, the RL50 demonstrated this year that county cricket can co-exist with franchise cricket. Despite dire predictions about quality the standard of the RL50 was actually pretty high and it was played out in front of very good crowds. I went to a game at Guildford which must have been pretty close to capacity. I would rather there remained an alternative to the Hundred if it is to be played at the height of the summer, suspect that smaller counties in particular would also like to retain the opportunity to play in front of their members and paying spectators.
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Post by richard on Sept 2, 2021 14:22:38 GMT
Going back to the point about 18 across all formats being very restrictive, do other countries use as many different players? I don’t know the answer to that question but I suspect it may be no. I think other countries tend to have shorter domestic seasons with fewer first class teams. For example Australia have 6x teams in the Sheffield Shield who play 8x four day games and they have their T20 big bash. So there is less overlap between domestic and international cricket as I understand it. Going back to the point about 18 across all formats being very restrictive, do other countries use as many different players? I don’t know the answer to that question but I suspect it may be no. I think other countries tend to have shorter domestic seasons with fewer first class teams. For example Australia have 6x teams in the Sheffield Shield who play 8x four day games and they have their T20 big bash. So there is less overlap between domestic and international cricket as I understand it. The question was more to do with do they almost have a different team for each format or do they have more of a central base with just a few changes ? Whether from photos or half names I could name (fully name) as many Test Indians as I could those from the England team and that’s from watching the IPL only. (Leaving aside their last performance) they are not a bad team, and yet it seems that, at least they believe, that their best players are their best players regardless of tournament. |
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Post by lancsdes on Sept 2, 2021 15:05:06 GMT
Great to see you on here Oldham Exile. Was worried we had lost you |
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