Phil Salt

[MickeyG]

3 good Lancs knocks in this match for England.

[Rob]

He scored two red ball hundreds for lancs and now has two back to back it20 100s. He has suddenly become a very hot property indeed yet he doesnt have an ipl contract so we may see him early next year. A gem of a player.

[oldhamexile]

I'm pleased for Phil Salt, he's always turned out for Lancashire when available and he's played well too. He's a shining example of what you can achieve in cricket and life through the application of hard work, he's come on leaps and bounds. It's a shame for him personally that he wasn't picked up in the IPL auction but a massive boost for us.

I'm surprised Luke Wood isn't in the Big Bash, I thought he was one of the best bowlers in that competition last year.

[Admin]

Of all the recent imports impressed with his attitude deserves success

[man in the stand]

Great player but looks likely to be another one who rarely plays for Lancs.

[Phil]

Dec 19, 2023 21:57:11 GMT chris said:

Dec 19, 2023 21:37:30 GMT Rob said:

Hes pretty good really isnt he?

Not picked up yet by the IPL.....

Amazed he wasn't picked in the draft. No doubt he will be a replacement for somebody

[Admin]

Appears to have got a replacement gig in the IPL instead of Roy at the KKR thing

[chris]

Mar 10, 2024 14:22:22 GMT Admin said:

Appears to have got a replacement gig in the IPL instead of Roy at the KKR thing

That explains his absence from the tour.  KKR not CSK.  Gives them a chance of giving Hartley a first team berth at 7 behind Jennings, Wells, Bohannon, Bruce, Balderson, Hurst/Bell (Lancs' face is saved avoiding harder decisions, pressure to loan out etc.)  8-11 being Bailey, Williams, Lyon, Anderson/ Mahmood.

Lancs now have 4 in the IPL.  They will be lucky to get games out of Wood and Salt let alone Livingstone or Buttler.

[oldhamexile]

That is a serious blow to any championship aspirations. Is Hartley good enough to bat 7 in the championship?

[sillypoint]

I am intrigued as to how Hartley has gone from not fit to tie Parky's shoelaces to someone we must get into the side at all costs.

The fact is, that other than having gained some experience by bowling a lot of overs against good players, he's still basically the same player as he was last season.

Hartley is a side(or barrel) spinner who pushes it through, the sort of spinner suited to sub-continent conditions. In the rest of the world you need to be an overspinner, who spins it more with some loop and dip. Nathan Lyon is an overspinner which is why he can bowl in any conditions. Hartley, himself has admitted he needs to learn how to bowl the overspinner and is hoping to do so from Lyon.

This is much more likely to happen in the nets than in matches, as, unless we play on a 'bunsen burner', which is very rare in this country, I can't see any way that Hartley & Lyon can play together. He's not even certain to be ahead of Morley in the pecking order. I don't think he is good enough to bat at no.7. He's a hitter, more suited to 8 or 9. We've got a chairman on record as saying we need to win more trophies and a new coach eager to make an impression and win games. Accommodating Hartley to please England won't be top of their agenda.

I've written off Salt, Anderson & Mahmood for this season, any games we get out of them being a bonus. This leaves us very light on seam bowling cover but the good news is that Lyon can wheel away all day at one end, meaning we only need two specialist seamers plus all-rounders Balderson & Aspinwall, allowing us to play the extra batsman.

I therefore see the team looking like -

Jennings, Wells, Bohannon, Bruce, Bell, Balderson, Hurst, Aspinwall, Bailey, Lyon, Williams

[ross]

I agree with this side. An earlier post suggested Wood was with the IPL. I think he was unsold and remains available for us, for now and may displace Aspinwall

[chris]

Mar 12, 2024 12:23:46 GMT ross said:

I agree with this side. An earlier post suggested Wood was with the IPL. I think he was unsold and remains available for us, for now and may displace Aspinwall

I saw this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5PB76T6u-s  and www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_7RwalBO1M

without understanding the commentary, I went by the headlines and thought that Luke Wood had been signed as a like forlike replacement - it may just be a fan's opinion / suggesiton.  But it may still happen:

[alanw]

Mar 12, 2024 10:09:38 GMT sillypoint said:

I am intrigued as to how Hartley has gone from not fit to tie Parky's shoelaces to someone we must get into the side at all costs.

The fact is, that other than having gained some experience by bowling a lot of overs against good players, he's still basically the same player as he was last season.

Hartley is a side(or barrel) spinner who pushes it through, the sort of spinner suited to sub-continent conditions. In the rest of the world you need to be an overspinner, who spins it more with some loop and dip. Nathan Lyon is an overspinner which is why he can bowl in any conditions. Hartley, himself has admitted he needs to learn how to bowl the overspinner and is hoping to do so from Lyon.

This is much more likely to happen in the nets than in matches, as, unless we play on a 'bunsen burner', which is very rare in this country, I can't see any way that Hartley & Lyon can play together. He's not even certain to be ahead of Morley in the pecking order. I don't think he is good enough to bat at no.7. He's a hitter, more suited to 8 or 9. We've got a chairman on record as saying we need to win more trophies and a new coach eager to make an impression and win games. Accommodating Hartley to please England won't be top of their agenda.

I've written off Salt, Anderson & Mahmood for this season, any games we get out of them being a bonus. This leaves us very light on seam bowling cover but the good news is that Lyon can wheel away all day at one end, meaning we only need two specialist seamers plus all-rounders Balderson & Aspinwall, allowing us to play the extra batsman.

I therefore see the team looking like -

Jennings, Wells, Bohannon, Bruce, Bell, Balderson, Hurst, Aspinwall, Bailey, Lyon, Williams

I also broadly agree with this team. With regard the seam bowling England's next test is on the 10th July so I would hope that Jimmy would play a few games for us in May/ June. I am not sure what the situation is with Mahmood, he was on the field for the recent T20 warm up game in Dubai but did not bowl although the commentators seemed to expect him to bowl. Blatherwick will also be in the mix and it is possible that one of the youngsters such as Boyden or Stanley might break into the team although it seems more likely that their opportunities will be with the white ball.

[chris]

Mar 13, 2024 17:18:38 GMT alanw said:

Mar 12, 2024 10:09:38 GMT sillypoint said:

I am intrigued as to how Hartley has gone from not fit to tie Parky's shoelaces to someone we must get into the side at all costs.

The fact is, that other than having gained some experience by bowling a lot of overs against good players, he's still basically the same player as he was last season.

Hartley is a side(or barrel) spinner who pushes it through, the sort of spinner suited to sub-continent conditions. In the rest of the world you need to be an overspinner, who spins it more with some loop and dip. Nathan Lyon is an overspinner which is why he can bowl in any conditions. Hartley, himself has admitted he needs to learn how to bowl the overspinner and is hoping to do so from Lyon.

This is much more likely to happen in the nets than in matches, as, unless we play on a 'bunsen burner', which is very rare in this country, I can't see any way that Hartley & Lyon can play together. He's not even certain to be ahead of Morley in the pecking order. I don't think he is good enough to bat at no.7. He's a hitter, more suited to 8 or 9. We've got a chairman on record as saying we need to win more trophies and a new coach eager to make an impression and win games. Accommodating Hartley to please England won't be top of their agenda.

I've written off Salt, Anderson & Mahmood for this season, any games we get out of them being a bonus. This leaves us very light on seam bowling cover but the good news is that Lyon can wheel away all day at one end, meaning we only need two specialist seamers plus all-rounders Balderson & Aspinwall, allowing us to play the extra batsman.

I therefore see the team looking like -

Jennings, Wells, Bohannon, Bruce, Bell, Balderson, Hurst, Aspinwall, Bailey, Lyon, Williams

I also broadly agree with this team. With regard the seam bowling England's next test is on the 10th July so I would hope that Jimmy would play a few games for us in May/ June. I am not sure what the situation is with Mahmood, he was on the field for the recent T20 warm up game in Dubai but did not bowl although the commentators seemed to expect him to bowl. Blatherwick will also be in the mix and it is possible that one of the youngsters such as Boyden or Stanley might break into the team although it seems more likely that their opportunities will be with the white ball.

He may have been the only Lancashire player they felt confident or able to say anything about.

[Rob]

43no in the first IPL game he is playing, keeping as well.