Radio Lancashire interview with Gidders

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[redandrosy]

Please note when listening to this in the 2023 county championship

Vilas scored 363 runs at 25.92 boosted by 124 in his last innings.

Croft scored 228 runs at 22.80

We have also won two trophies (excluding division 2) since 2000. This puts us amongst the worst performing counties in the country in that period.

Middlesex who have financial issues and can't afford an overseas managed to sign Du Ploy who averaged 50 for them playing all 14 games. He had a similar track record with Derbyshire. We get Tom Bruce who had failed with Sussex in his last stint over here. He complains you can't get quality players to play a full season so why don't we compete for the best domestic players when they move?

Don't want the expense of players on year long contracts maybe?

[Dave Towers]

Without listening to it all again, I think he said we went straight from promotion in 2019 to competing in the Bob Willis Final. Not so! The BWT Final was 2021 after a curtailed, but disappointing 2020 when we started by losing to Leicestershire.

One promotion year we finished second to Surrey, and didn’t win it. That may not have been 2019 though, without looking it up.

Regarding the loss of experience, I wonder if Croft would have played a few CC games last year if he had been asked? With variously Bruce, Iyer, Flintoff, Fonseka and Singh either struggling or finding their feet, he might have been a worthwhile stopgap.

The Luke Wood business. He was/is a contracted Lancashire player. At the back end of the season he was not required by England, but went off to play in what might be considered a lesser franchise tournament and thus became unavailable for county selection. Did we reduce his salary?

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Oct 16, 2024 14:25:29 GMT Dave Towers said:

Without listening to it all again, I think he said we went straight from promotion in 2019 to competing in the Bob Willis Final. Not so! The BWT Final was 2021 after a curtailed, but disappointing 2020 when we started by losing to Leicestershire.

One promotion year we finished second to Surrey, and didn’t win it. That may not have been 2019 though, without looking it up.

Regarding the loss of experience, I wonder if Croft would have played a few CC games last year if he had been asked? With variously Bruce, Iyer, Flintoff, Fonseka and Singh either struggling or finding their feet, he might have been a worthwhile stopgap.

The Luke Wood business. He was/is a contracted Lancashire player. At the back end of the season he was not required by England, but went off to play in what might be considered a lesser franchise tournament and thus became unavailable for county selection. Did we reduce his salary?

Lancs need to put certain players on white ball only contracts e.g. Buttler, Livingstone, Wood, Salt.

[John W]

I watched the DOC and CEO interviews back to back. At the end I'm struggling to know which one came out with the most excuses.

They both place the blame on everyone/everything except the ones that matter, it's the reason they are all in a job and Lancashire are in their current mess. They both sing from the same (fantasy) song sheet. A sheet where young players have to adapt to the new coaches methods, the same methods that effectively brought his previous county two successive relegations. A sheet where Gloucester win a trophy the first season after the coach leaves yet it is that coach who brought them that success and not the new Gloucester coach. A sheet where the board were brave enough to show Chapple the door but not brave enough to tell Vilas and Croft their time was up.

The excuses go on and on, we hear it at every meeting/forum and if any member steps out of line...

Very early in his Lancashire career the CEO was asked about a number of poor recruitments around that period, his reply was - well Jimmy Anderson was a good signing!...says it all really.

[oldhamexile]

As others have said, excuses not explanations. I'm a standy by your man kinda guy, but for Benkenstein and Chilton to survive a season like that which was poor, if not incompetent, in every way beggars belief.

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Oct 17, 2024 8:02:44 GMT oldhamexile said:

As others have said, excuses not explanations. I'm a standy by your man kinda guy, but for Benkenstein and Chilton to survive a season like that which was poor, if not incompetent, in every way beggars belief.


From what I read it is Chilton's fault for poor overseas signings.

Gidney added: "Mark is working very hard on overseas for next year because we know it didn’t go right this year. 

[redandrosy]

I am convinced will not be a successful cricket focus club as long as that man is employed by the club.

Look at happened to Coventry City when he was running the ricoh arena. The sporting club took years to recover.

Is there any way to get rid of him and his lies and excuses?

[man in the stand]

Thanks for the link..nothing partcularly new though surprised to hear that some counties are financially worse off even post the Hundred pay outs.

My cricticism of the coaching staff in the CC was their inability to improve team and individual performances after the poor start by both the batters and bowlers.