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Post by oldhamexile on Feb 22, 2024 9:19:07 GMT
I share everyone else's concerns in respect of T20 and even shorter form cricket devouring the game but something that gives me at least some solace is the appetite shown for the 50 over competition that has run concurrently with the Hundred.
Despite being shorn of the biggest stars this competition has still attracted big crowds who want to watch something resembling proper cricket at the height of summer.
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Post by man in the stand on Feb 26, 2024 20:45:30 GMT
Two hours forum just on the Hundred..panel was Chilton, Gidney, Peacock and (I think) Sheridan - audience majority of male members of mature years (like me)
Situation - each Hundred team a separate company owned by the ECB..proposal to give free a part of the Original's company to LCCC with another part to be sold off to an investor.Investor not to be chosen solely on how much they may be willing to pay for a share but what they can bring to the hundred.
Should generate several millions for LCCC who are struggling to compete on salaries with all the T20 franchises...
No intention to put this to a members' vote and panel seemed very worried about a SGM being called..
My concern is over the investor and their influence over the club - after all they are looking for as large a return. Lancs are saying no more Hundred games - only 4 home ones at the moment - but the investor will want more.
At last year's forums there was a concern about the crowded schedule and the pressures on the players etc... something has to give and this proposal means that the Hundred is with us for the long term. The T20 blast makes money so the something to go is likely to be CC games...
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Post by kenhiggs on Feb 27, 2024 8:02:16 GMT
...as will my membership, eventually. Not that LCCC will be concerned.
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Post by alanw on Feb 27, 2024 10:29:30 GMT
I don’t like the direction of travel our domestic cricket is taking. I don’t think anybody knows where we are going to end up but I suspect we are going to end up with a two tier system which has eight elite county/ franchise teams and ten lower tier teams.
I listened to the forum on zoom last night things which stood out to me were:
It was stated that LCCC were against any expansion of the Hundred. Is this still going to be the case when we have an equity stake in the Manchester Originals and the Hundred is a major revenue stream for us?
When Gidney was asked about the financial effect on counties who do not host a hundred team and therefore not going to get a stake in a franchise team he started his reply by saying that it was up to other counties to decide how they spent their money. Well you can’t spend money you don’t have!
It was said that Sky only value international cricket and the Hundred and don’t see any value in the T20 Blast. This highlights the problem the Hundred has given us, we now have two short format competitions that detract from each other.
Some counties want to stop second XI cricket due to the cost.
I got the impression that the LCCC Board are only interested in the financial success of Lancashire and have little interest in maintaining our current domestic structure i.e. the counties which don't host Internationals and franchise games.
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Post by man in the stand on Feb 28, 2024 12:13:34 GMT
...... I got the impression that the LCCC Board are only interested in the financial success of Lancashire and have little interest in maintaining our current domestic structure i.e. the counties which don't host Internationals and franchise games. I got the other impression but if LCCC do nothing then the drain of LCCC players to franchise cricket will increase.
It's difficult to see that an investor in the Originals won't press for more games..and there is talk already of adding more teams. The investor won't have control but look at the influence Jim Ratcliffe is having at MUFC where is owns less than 30%.It may be the the T20 blast games are reduced instead of CC but something has to give.......
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Post by Phil on Feb 28, 2024 15:01:25 GMT
Two hours forum just on the Hundred..panel was Chilton, Gidney, Peacock and (I think) Sheridan - audience majority of male members of mature years (like me)
Situation - each Hundred team a separate company owned by the ECB..proposal to give free a part of the Original's company to LCCC with another part to be sold off to an investor.Investor not to be chosen solely on how much they may be willing to pay for a share but what they can bring to the hundred.
Should generate several millions for LCCC who are struggling to compete on salaries with all the T20 franchises...
No intention to put this to a members' vote and panel seemed very worried about a SGM being called..
My concern is over the investor and their influence over the club - after all they are looking for as large a return. Lancs are saying no more Hundred games - only 4 home ones at the moment - but the investor will want more.
At last year's forums there was a concern about the crowded schedule and the pressures on the players etc... something has to give and this proposal means that the Hundred is with us for the long term. The T20 blast makes money so the something to go is likely to be CC games...
I watched the stream as well, depressing. How can 4 home games a season generate 'several millions'?
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Post by Admin on Feb 28, 2024 16:17:22 GMT
Two hours forum just on the Hundred..panel was Chilton, Gidney, Peacock and (I think) Sheridan - audience majority of male members of mature years (like me)
Situation - each Hundred team a separate company owned by the ECB..proposal to give free a part of the Original's company to LCCC with another part to be sold off to an investor.Investor not to be chosen solely on how much they may be willing to pay for a share but what they can bring to the hundred. Should generate several millions for LCCC who are struggling to compete on salaries with all the T20 franchises... No intention to put this to a members' vote and panel seemed very worried about a SGM being called.. My concern is over the investor and their influence over the club - after all they are looking for as large a return. Lancs are saying no more Hundred games - only 4 home ones at the moment - but the investor will want more. At last year's forums there was a concern about the crowded schedule and the pressures on the players etc... something has to give and this proposal means that the Hundred is with us for the long term. The T20 blast makes money so the something to go is likely to be CC games...
I watched the stream as well, depressing. How can 4 home games a season generate 'several millions'? More space for concerts |
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Post by ross on Feb 28, 2024 17:20:27 GMT
I watched the stream, too. The Hundred is not going to disappear. No change leaves control in the centre. I suggest it is better that LCCC exert influence as shareholder in the local team.
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Post by oldhamexile on Feb 29, 2024 11:58:02 GMT
A number of Lancashire players have been retained by their Hundred franchises ahead of the draft: Livingstone, Buttler (!), Salt, Hartley, Stanley, Mahmood, Wood and Wells.
I would have thought it unlikely any of our other players will be target in the draft unless Lyon and Bruce are available.
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Post by chris on Mar 1, 2024 11:28:19 GMT
A number of Lancashire players have been retained by their Hundred franchises ahead of the draft: Livingstone, Buttler (!), Salt, Hartley, Stanley, Mahmood, Wood and Wells. I would have thought it unlikely any of our other players will be target in the draft unless Lyon and Bruce are available. Eight is the second highest behind Surrey on 11. Players putting themselves forward in the draft will be announced on 4th March. There are 18 places available for domestic county players in the draft plus 16 wild card places to be chosen later in the season after the Blast group stages. It was in the wild card section that Lancs lost Wells last year and this is the likeliest place that they lose players again if someone has a good Blast series. I suspect, if previous years are anything to go by that most of the 18 players to be drafted on 20th March will go to players who have previously played in the competition but who have not been retained like Malan, Kohler-Cadmore, Wheal, Roy, Briggs, Mousley, Lyth, Gleeson, Parkinson etc.
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Post by chris on Mar 5, 2024 13:52:46 GMT
Tom Bruce has entered the Hundred draft £60k reserve. Lyon hasn't.
Tom Bailey, George Bell, Jack Blatherwick, Josh Bohannon, Steven Croft, Keaton Jennings, George Lavelle, Jack Morley are also in the draft for 20th March (no reserve).
In total there are 245 domestic players and 389 overseas players registered for selection. There are 18 domestic places and 14 overseas places available.
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Post by oldhamexile on Mar 5, 2024 14:03:03 GMT
Tom Bruce has entered the Hundred draft £60k reserve. Lyon hasn't. Tom Bailey, George Bell, Jack Blatherwick, Josh Bohannon, Steven Croft, Keaton Jennings, George Lavelle, Jack Morley are also in the draft for 20th March (no reserve). In total there are 245 domestic players and 389 overseas players registered for selection. There are 18 domestic places and 14 overseas places available. I think you've already said it's unlikely any of ours will get picked up in the draft but if someone, George Bell for example, had an outstanding T20 we might lose them as a wildcard. Really pleased that Lyon isn't entering the dog and pony show, would be lovely to see him at work in the 50 over comp. |
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Post by chris on Mar 20, 2024 19:33:52 GMT
No Lancashire player drafted today, not Bruce not even Hurst or Aspinwall. Gleeson was though but Lancs didn't want him.
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Post by alanw on Mar 21, 2024 9:20:34 GMT
No Lancashire player drafted today, not Bruce not even Hurst or Aspinwall. Gleeson was though but Lancs didn't want him. Were Hurst and Aspinwall in the draft? I don't think either of them have played a first team T20 game. Having said that if either of them perform well in the Blast this year they could get a wildcard selection like Wells last year. |
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Post by chris on Mar 21, 2024 10:37:35 GMT
No Lancashire player drafted today, not Bruce not even Hurst or Aspinwall. Gleeson was though but Lancs didn't want him. Were Hurst and Aspinwall in the draft? I don't think either of them have played a first team T20 game. Having said that if either of them perform well in the Blast this year they could get a wildcard selection like Wells last year.You are absolutely right, Alan. I posted how few Lancs players were actually in the draft a while back. Was just thinking who I would have drafted from Lancashire. Wonder if the same rules apply to the wild card draft. It's a joke that the same names seem to just appear year after year moving from franchise to franchise. |
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