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Post by alanw on Jul 16, 2022 21:00:02 GMT
Some poor batting and Wells giving up 21 from his one over cost Lancs. Livingstone instead of him could have made a difference. |
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Post by Admin on Jul 16, 2022 21:07:27 GMT
Think Vilas ain't happy with them
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Post by mickeyg on Jul 16, 2022 21:07:56 GMT
Some poor batting and Wells giving up 21 from his one over cost Lancs. Livingstone instead of him could have made a difference.
It was batting, as one costly over shouldn't lose you the game. I'm just lamenting if Lancs could play all their best players all season they'd be better for it. Same for all teams of course. This losing players to England sucks. Can you imagine it happening in football? |
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Post by salopian on Jul 16, 2022 21:22:46 GMT
Having nobody who could boundaries beyond the top five was always going to be problem if we lose 4/5 wickets. There's simply no power in the late middle order & no one who can a quick 15-20. (see also the game thrown away at Derbyshire in the gap stages)
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Post by Dave Towers on Jul 16, 2022 22:18:26 GMT
So if it's a free hit shouldn't there be another ball afterwards? Or have I missed something I think I missed it as well, thinking there would be an extra delivery to come. |
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Post by richard on Jul 16, 2022 22:20:28 GMT
Having nobody who could boundaries beyond the top five was always going to be problem if we lose 4/5 wickets. There's simply no power in the late middle order & no one who can a quick 15-20. (see also the game thrown away at Derbyshire in the gap stages) Agreed. Pretty much what I said to my son when Jordan Thompson was hitting the ball to all parts in the SF. |
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Post by Butter_Fingers on Jul 16, 2022 22:27:25 GMT
Harsh to be critical of Jennings with him having played so well in the first match but it was his dismissal when we were in total control to a shot he didn't need to make that turned the match in Hampshire's favour.
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Post by exile on Jul 16, 2022 22:53:44 GMT
Sorry to say this but, although it was by the narrowest of margins, Hants just about deserved to edge it because they were the more disciplined side. I thought our bowling and fielding was far better than in the semi-final but the batting was a lot worse, with too many batters getting out to careless shots. That said, it's been a good T20 campaign and I don't think losing by one run in a tight game is anything to agonise over.
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Post by LeythLancs on Jul 16, 2022 23:21:24 GMT
Desperately need an all rounder with some power with the bat, somebody like Faulkner or Clark.
Lamb and Wells are too hit and miss with the ball, in that they’re always likely to have one bad over at least, and they just don’t have the power with the bat either. Lamb is batting two places too high even in the current line up on this season’s form.
Hopefully Balderson, Bell and some other youngsters get a chance to show what that can do in the RL cup, and we can find an overseas all rounder next season. As good as David was early season, he’s not really seen us home in any tight chases, which was his job.
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Post by Admin on Jul 17, 2022 6:43:35 GMT
So if it's a free hit shouldn't there be another ball afterwards? Or have I missed something I think I missed it as well, thinking there would be an extra delivery to come. Took me a while to figure it out, it is classed as a normal ball but you cannot be given out on it |
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Post by exile on Jul 17, 2022 7:37:12 GMT
Having nobody who could boundaries beyond the top five was always going to be problem if we lose 4/5 wickets. There's simply no power in the late middle order & no one who can a quick 15-20. (see also the game thrown away at Derbyshire in the gap stages) Agreed. Pretty much what I said to my son when Jordan Thompson was hitting the ball to all parts in the SF. I agree with the general point but last night we really didn't need to lose so many wickets. I don't think our batters grasped the situation properly and so were a bit careless. I think that after chasing down 205 they thought 153 was going to be a cakewalk and they hugely underestimated the opposition. |
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Post by GarethPlatt on Jul 17, 2022 9:04:24 GMT
Batting was nervous right from the start. The sight of Vilas chewing his bat handle didn't inspire confidence did it. Said it a few times this season - we seem to find a way to throw away matches when we're on top consistently. We've only won three CC games all season and two of them were last-gasp. Vilas is clearly an outstanding leader and deserves to go down as one of our greats, but I'm wondering if someone like Jennings might be a cooler head as captain. And there are still massive question marks around the coaching staff when it comes to winning trophies. Overall though lots to be optimistic about - we've come second in the Blast and we're third in the CC. We were a yo-yo club until recently, now we're established in the top division. And we're getting loads right off the field. With a few essential tweaks we'll hopefully win some honours soon. |
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Post by LeythLancs on Jul 17, 2022 9:36:22 GMT
Think there’s quite a rebuilding job for next season. Wells’ role in t20 is to be Jennings’ backup, maybe batting at 3 if Croft retires. We don’t know how long Croft and Vilas have left, and none of our best bowlers do a great deal with the bat, which is always going to be an issue in low scoring games where teams take wickets.
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Post by exile on Jul 17, 2022 9:39:04 GMT
Well said, Gareth. Vilas is a fine leader from the front and has more than once played a match winning innings but he's not a great tactician. Yesterday, taking off the spinners when Yorkshire were under the cosh was a bad mistake which gifted Yorkshire at least 20 extra runs. Fortunately, the batters rescued the situation. In the final, with the seamers bowling at the top of their game, there was no need to bring on Wells. No criticism of Wells whatsoever - he has bowled well on many occasions - but he remains a part-time bowler and there is always the risk that a part-time bowler will get it wrong, as indeed he did. I don't know what the batting plan was for the final but it should have been obvious that the wicket had become a lot harder to play on and it should have been hammered into the batters' heads to avoid unnecessary risks, especially against a side which is known for its ability to defend low totals. The moment Salt holed out, I thought we were in trouble because the mind set looked wrong, and so it proved.
I think Gareth is dead right about some of the coaching staff - we have a long tradition of last gasp disappointment going right back to the year 2000 - but also right that we are having a good season. Incidentally, I still think Hants deserved it but, having looked at it, there's a good case for saying that actually we won. It wouldn't be the first time by any means that the T20 has been awarded to the wrong side.
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Post by man in the stand on Jul 17, 2022 10:37:02 GMT
I agree that Vilas is a good captain. Very hard to lose the game on such a small margin. I thought the Yorkshire total would be beyond us and that the Hant's total would be straightforward..got that all wrong. Hants were the only team without any players with England. If perhaps we had had Livingstone for Hartley? Be a bit hard to drop Croft for Buttler though.
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