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Post by Admin on May 7, 2024 16:34:39 GMT
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Post by oldhamexile on May 8, 2024 8:48:15 GMT
Some impressive cricketers have come out of SACA already, should be scouting these lads if we're not already.
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Post by chris on May 8, 2024 12:13:34 GMT
Some impressive cricketers have come out of SACA already, should be scouting these lads if we're not already. Seems to be the other way round. At least three players who Lancashire were looking at, in age group and second XI terms until recently have gone on to play for SACA.
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Post by oldhamexile on May 8, 2024 13:19:33 GMT
Some impressive cricketers have come out of SACA already, should be scouting these lads if we're not already. Seems to be the other way round. At least three players who Lancashire were looking at, in age group and second XI terms until recently have gone on to play for SACA.No it isn't. SACA specifically established to help players of south asian descent/birth into county cricket, normally after thay have "failed" to make it through the normal structures and pathways.
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Post by chris on May 8, 2024 16:22:17 GMT
Seems to be the other way round. At least three players who Lancashire were looking at, in age group and second XI terms until recently have gone on to play for SACA. No it isn't. SACA specifically established to help players of south asian descent/birth into county cricket, normally after thay have "failed" to make it through the normal structures and pathways. exactly, normally after they have "failed" at clubs like Lancashire. So why would Lancashire think they should scout these players after they have already turned them away? If they feel any pressure from Members it would be to a) produce home grown players and b) to recruit proven top quality from other first class counties. Have SACA helped any players into an old style TMG First Class County rather than the smaller counties? Surely it's mainly been Somerset, Gloucestershire, Kent, Glamorgan and Worcestershire who are probably more geared up to looking around.
Nothing against SACA but I doubt Lancashire will be looking at their players.
Lancashire don't have an ideal track record of bringing through young Asian cricketers from through age groups or Lancashire Academy let alone from elsewhere in the country through SACA.
Meanwhile the likes of Subhaan Mahmood, Owais Shah, Adam Patel, Arav Shetty have all gone are going in the opposite direction.
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Post by oldhamexile on May 8, 2024 20:53:16 GMT
I'd be surprised if Lancashire were looking at players from SACA. Very much sounds like you're part of the problem to me.
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Post by chris on May 9, 2024 7:36:38 GMT
I'd be surprised if Lancashire were looking at players from SACA. Very much sounds like you're part of the problem to me. Really? How so? Enlighten me.
Should I not have disagreed with you over: "Some impressive cricketers have come out of SACA already, should be scouting these lads if we're not already." Or not attempted to justify my reading of the club's position?
Can you name all these "impressive cricketers", let's start off with Kashif Ali. I'm sure we can agree on that.
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Post by oldhamexile on May 9, 2024 20:03:00 GMT
I'd be surprised if Lancashire were looking at players from SACA. Very much sounds like you're part of the problem to me. Really? How so? Enlighten me.
Should I not have disagreed with you over: "Some impressive cricketers have come out of SACA already, should be scouting these lads if we're not already." Or not attempted to justify my reading of the club's position?
Can you name all these "impressive cricketers", let's start off with Kashif Ali. I'm sure we can agree on that.
I'll be honest, you caught me on a bad day. I'd normally ignore your boring, shithouse pedantry but it hit a nerve. You know full well what the purpose of SACA is. It is to try and remedy some of the institutional racism that infects cricket as it does much of our society. The structures of our game, as with our society, are riddled with it, from administrators, through clubs, through coaches through boring assholes like yourself. So just as extravagantly talented cricketers like Owais Shah and Ravi Bopara are unable to fully realise their talent in the international game, there are cricketers like Kashif Ali and Zaman Akhter who have inexplicably been able to get a county contract without the help of SACA. a construct that should be entirely unnecessary in 2023. I wouldn't normally bite but I believe you fully understand the purpose of SACA and yet you sneer and you try and and score points, despite the hash poor record of Lancashire in bringing through cricketers of south asian heritage and the hash poor state of the current Lancashire bolwing stocks . I'm more than happy to deal with a disagreement about subjective views on cricket, less content dealing with your Little England shithousery. That, I will call out.
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Post by Admin on May 9, 2024 20:28:52 GMT
Gentleman being forum moderator on here is easy rarely do I have to step in this is a rare occasion
We don’t always agree but if you are having a difference in views can we please try to not personally attack each other we ended up with stuff like that on the old forum
Thank you
Admin
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Post by Admin on May 13, 2024 11:37:01 GMT
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Post by lancsdes on May 14, 2024 8:30:39 GMT
Was talking to one of the Welsh players at the over 50s international at S & B on Sunday. He was enthusing about this ground. I was aware how nice it was and even thought of going if we were in anticyclone conditions. There used to be first team games there in long gone better days .
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Post by lancsdes on May 14, 2024 9:07:09 GMT
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Post by lancsdes on May 14, 2024 9:48:28 GMT
No play before lunch.
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Post by lancsdes on May 14, 2024 12:01:30 GMT
In this edition of the Cricket Paper, Kevin Sharp, retired coach of Worcestershire, was saying that he thinks the reduction in proper second 11 cricket would be really bad for the development of young cricketers. He mentioned that he didn’t think that someone like Joe Root would have developed as well without the second 11 cricket he played.
It certainly isn’t a positive though I have to say that much of the second team cricket I’ve seen has been light years below first class and often seems of a lesser standard and certainly the games drift a lot more than Premier League cricket especially as the Liverpool area is not limited over. However, that is only day per week.
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Post by Admin on May 14, 2024 13:09:36 GMT
No play todat
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