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Post by apm51054 on Nov 1, 2019 12:14:34 GMT
From 2021 it will be the County Championship that will be played at the same time as the dread according to ESPN
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Post by richard on Nov 1, 2019 13:41:31 GMT
From 2021 it will be the County Championship that will be played at the same time as the dread according to ESPN Oops. Has someone realised the effect that it will have on the World Cup team ? So that’s how long to work that out? I don’t suppose then that they will be too concerned about the Test team ? |
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Post by chris on Nov 1, 2019 15:22:52 GMT
From 2021 it will be the County Championship that will be played at the same time as the dread according to ESPN Oops. Has someone realised the effect that it will have on the World Cup team ? So that’s how long to work that out? I don’t suppose then that they will be too concerned about the Test team ?
"One option likely to be discussed by the ECB cricket committee now chaired by Andrew Strauss is the possibility of staging Championship games - perhaps offering half the points of matches at other stages of the season when all players are available - during the window designed to accommodate the Hundred."
www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/27980519/championship-played-alongside-hundred-giles
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Post by Admin on Nov 1, 2019 17:29:00 GMT
Oops. Has someone realised the effect that it will have on the World Cup team ? So that’s how long to work that out? I don’t suppose then that they will be too concerned about the Test team ?
"One option likely to be discussed by the ECB cricket committee now chaired by Andrew Strauss is the possibility of staging Championship games - perhaps offering half the points of matches at other stages of the season when all players are available - during the window designed to accommodate the Hundred."
www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/27980519/championship-played-alongside-hundred-giles
Absolute nonsense half points what a crock of ....... |
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Post by werneth on Nov 1, 2019 17:47:23 GMT
Absolute nonsense half points what a crock of ....... I'm dismayed to see Giles so obediently toeing the line when faced a nonsensical plan like this to ruin cricket's oldest competition. Still, if it helps towards making the Blundred a huge success, that's what we all really want, isn't it?........... |
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Post by apm51054 on Nov 1, 2019 18:11:59 GMT
Absolute nonsense half points what a crock of ....... I'm dismayed to see Giles so obediently toeing the line when faced a nonsensical plan like this to ruin cricket's oldest competition. Still, if it helps towards making the Blundred a huge success, that's what we all really want, isn't it?........... Money is the name of the game |
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Post by lancsdes on Nov 2, 2019 15:12:48 GMT
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Post by chris on Nov 2, 2019 17:09:22 GMT
Yes and wonder who the Devon player who lost his way was.
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Post by Admin on Nov 7, 2019 14:13:19 GMT
Article in the Crickteter indicated possible reduction in 4 day games to 10 or 12 personal view time for the counties to set up there own thing one league three day games and bollocks to the ECB
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Post by Admin on Nov 10, 2019 15:10:05 GMT
When Eoin Morgan said “over the next few years, one of the formats will miss out – we can’t play with four formats”, he was probably right. He was just wrong to infer it would be the Blast.
That is the only conclusion to be drawn from the draft schedule for 2020, seen by The Cricketer.
With 11 matches out of 14 set to be played at the bookends of the season, it is the County Championship that is imperilled.
It will no longer be – to use a phrase favoured by former Home Secretary John Reid – fit for purpose.
Frankly, what will be the point of it?
Yes, yes, I know several hundred to a thousand or two fans attend the matches. And thousands more like me follow the scores online through the day. But one of its fundamental purposes – to identify and prepare players for Test duty – will effectively be nullified.
The schedule – sent to county CEOs – sees three Championship matches in April and four in May. Then the Vitality Blast enjoys a run (May 28-June 7). A Championship match pops up in mid-June. Then more Blast matches (June 19-26). Then two four-day windows (starting June 28 and July 5).
The Hundred is poised to start on July 17, the ‘development’ 50-over tournament commencing a day later. The Blast quarter-finals are from August 18-21, then it is two Championship windows (August 23 and 29).
Blast Finals Day could be on September 5 (with a reserve day). Then two Championship windows (September 8 and 14). The 50-over final to be on September 19 (with a reserve day). And finally two Championship matches (September 21 and September 27 – going into the last day of the month)... later than ever before.
Rumour reaches us that this is the precursor to an announcement that two Championship matches will be culled come 2021, to 12 per side. Which presumably means teams in both Divisions One and Two will not play each other home and away (this is already the case in the top flight next summer). How much longer will it be before the magic number of 10 is reached – in line with the Sheffield Shield?
somerset061102
The English domestic season in 2020 is set to finish on the final day of September
Of course all these matches in the spring and late summer/autumn will not be conducive to producing Test cricketers – unless Faf du Plessis is right that the World Test Championship is likely to result in more result pitches.
Success in the County Championship will still signify character and combativeness – somebody like Dominic Sibley last summer, who can rise above the elements – but conditions will bear no resemblance to those of a Test match – in England, with three Tests pencilled in for June and three for August – and especially at venues like Brisbane, Colombo and New Delhi.
How has this occurred?
There was a clue at the House of Commons, when the ECB delegation were questioned by the Department for Culture, Media and Sport. “Next year, from 2020 onwards, the schedule has been put together by the stakeholders, the counties,” ECB chairman Colin Graves told MPs. “They got together between them; we didn’t impose anything on them.”
So there you go... it looks as if the counties chose to have their Blast matches, not Championship, in mid-summer. And you can see why: T20 makes big money, the four-day game does not.
The ECB have to tread carefully with the counties. There was a cold war about The Hundred. Now it’s détente. But really shouldn’t the ECB be telling the counties to schedule the Championship better? After all, the Test game is still important to them. It still makes them big money. I am guessing Test cricket makes up about £700m of the £1.1bn television deal from 2020-24.
Maybe this is where the new Professional Game Board comes in – to make decisions for the good of English cricket, not the bank balance.
sedbergh061101
The 2019 season saw Lancashire play one game of their County Championship campaign at Sedbergh
A new legend seems to fear for Test cricket’s future on a weekly basis. Greg Chappell believes there may only be four or five major countries playing it soon. “It's another reason why I think 50-over cricket needs to be supported and given a rethink,” he says, “because 50-over cricket could well become the Test cricket of the future for a lot of cricket-playing countries.”
Ashley Giles, the managing director of England men’s cricket, suggests a solution: play some Championship matches rather than 50-over alongside The Hundred.
Yes, 96 domestic players will be away in the ECB’s new competition, but that still leaves a lot of cricketers to enjoy good conditions, at outgrounds which are so popular with traditional fans and many of our readers.
This gives the 50-over format its own slot, and would placate critics who say we are not taking the defence of our world title in 2023 seriously enough. Sky would also be pleased. As it currently stands, the only county 50-over match shown will be the final (understandably, because of course they will be broadcasting every match of The Hundred, even the ones the BBC have the rights to).
There was criticism on Twitter when the Giles story was published, saying it was downgrading the Championship with under-strength sides, but can it be any worse than having so many matches in April and September?
It’s like watching a beloved pet suffer an agonising death. It’s the last thing I want to see, but maybe a mercy killing would be best before it suffers any further indignity.
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Post by lancsdes on Nov 30, 2019 10:04:20 GMT
Email below from the Lancashire action group. I would commend supporting the new publication which previous form of the fanzine suggests will be a good read. The general theme of the disenfranchisement of genuine cricket fans is becoming a common one around the county forums. HI EVERYONE We have some excellent news with our campaign to stop Sedbergh School hosting a Championship game next season proving successful. As you are probably aware we sent Daniel Gidney, the Chief Executive an open letter (still available on our website) requesting that they do not hold a Championship game at Sedbergh School next season and that if necessary, we would force a Special General Meeting (SGM) to try and stop a potential fixture. Our campaign easily reached the 100 members needed to trigger an SGM and despite many sources stating that the Club were planning to favour Sedbergh over grounds based in Lancashire the Club announced yesterday that of the four games being played away from Old Trafford with Liverpool hosting both a T20 blast match and a RL Cup game and Blackpool and Sedbergh hosting one RL Cup game each there would be no Championship game away from Old Trafford. I was invited onto BBC Radio Cumbria yesterday and the Sedbergh School headmaster was 'disappointed' that no Championship game was now taking place at the ground. In our letter to Mr Gidney we also requested that Blackpool and, indeed Southport would be considered in the near future alongside Liverpool as far more suitable outground hosts so it was excellent to read Paul Allott, the Director of Cricket stating that the Club "will provide support with the aim of getting Southport back on the rota, possibly as early as the 2021 season." May I thank everybody on behalf of the Action Group who supported our campaign. We have proved over the last 5 1/2 years that we can get the Club to listen to its supporters into the way the Club is run and we will continue to fight for the rights of members and supporters. Now onto another campaign we have been involved in. I was approached a couple of months ago to help in a campaign to promote County Cricket and 'oppose the 100' which of course is the new City based competition that the ECB is controversially starting next season. Like the vast majority of cricket fans we are appalled at the way 'red ball' cricket has been elbowed to the edges of the season so the Action Group decided to produce a magazine called 'County Cricket Matters' with various writers championing the beautiful game. Along with our own Roy Cavanagh there are articles from various experienced cricket writers including Dan Whiting, Sir Fred Boycott, James Buttler and Annie Chave. The magazine champions the cause of all 18 counties and is at the printers as we speak and will be posted out early next week. We are selling it exclusively through our website so please go to www.lancsactiongroup.com/shop if you would like to buy a copy. It costs just £2 plus postage and will also be available to download as a digital copy from next Tuesday. We are also selling polo shirts for £14.99 plus postage and tshirts for £9.99 plus postage. Again these are available exclusively through our website. Any profits raised from the sale of the magazine or shirts will be ploughed back into the campaign. Finally, please feel free to forward this email to anybody who would be interested in the contents. Many thanks, Ian Lomax Lancashire Action Group lancsactiongroup · lancsactiongroup@yahoo.com · Old Trafford, M16 · United Kingdom |
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Post by chris on Dec 16, 2019 9:36:14 GMT
So an open letter from Simon Katich has appeared (and disappeared this morning) on the club website cricket.lancashirecricket.co.uk/news/2019-news/an-open-letter-from-simon-katich-manchester-originals-head-coach/
"I had two special seasons wearing the Red Rose, chiefly in 2013 when we won the Division Two title and a hard fought promotion.
The support we as a team received was an extremely important part of our success, so I would love to see as many of you as possible get behind the Originals in 2020 and beyond.
I firmly believe The Hundred will be a great chance to introduce your family to cricket, and it would be fantastic if we can recreate the crowds and atmospheres we’ve seen at recent Lancashire Vitality Blast home fixtures.
The Originals are an extension of this great county, one which has had significant success down the years in limited overs cricket.
We have assembled a squad we are hugely excited about and confident of bringing some more silverware to Emirates Old Trafford.
This squad has an ideal blend of youth and experience and is built around a core group of Red Rose players who have all performed at the highest level.
In Jos Buttler, who will be available to us around his England commitments, we have a superstar of the world game, while Saqib Mahmood and Matthew Parkinson have every chance of hitting similar heights.
We were desperate to secure the services of Dane Vilas at a very early stage in October’s draft. Not only is he a talented player who has just enjoyed a fabulous season in county cricket, but his character is so important to us. He will be vital in building a strong culture right across the Originals team, both men and women."
An open reply to Simon Katich.
Welcome to the post truth era.
Two special seasons? Whilst 2013 saw some amazing performances not least from yourself and the season is one that many will remember with pleasure, please don't try and pretend one championship match and a few T20s equate to a full or special season in 2010. Pure marketing speak. If you were trying to build a squad around a core of LCCC players why were no selections made in the draft from the club after Dane Vilas? No one you rated as worth even £30k? Is the Vitality Blast not a great way to introduce families to cricket?
Why was this new tournament necessary, allegedly to find a new audience. But now you need to reach out to Lancashire County Cricket Club members supporters. Why? Is the mythical new audience really not there? You will not find many members and supporters outside of those directly involved with Lancashire County Cricket Club who agree that Manchester Originals are an extension of the County Club. Even the ECB have tried endlessly to differentiate between the county clubs and these “franchises".
Clearly the club have become aware of this, as they no longer use Twitter to promote the Hundred – or your letter – too many below the line comments.
No one can blame you or the players for following where the ECB cash is, but I am not sure the same applies to supporters. Given a choice of the Vitality Blast or the Hundred, between the history of Lancashire vs Yorkshire or the made up “Manchester” vs “Northern”, what do you really think the answer is?
Let's not forget the actual Lancashire County Cricket team are playing over the same period.
And one final thought. Why would members need preferential early booking when the ECB are aiming for 60% attendance? |
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Post by lancsdes on Dec 16, 2019 17:59:57 GMT
Well said Chris
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Post by chris on Dec 18, 2019 11:44:55 GMT
Letter taken down amid fears of blurring of lines. But seems like Lancashire CCC are in a bit of mess as clearly whatever lines there are, are blurred by the choice of coaching staff and by agreeing to have only one county involved.
"Each new side will be run by a team board with an independent chairman"
Time to name the independent Board?
a spokesperson said:
"The letter was taken down as it was inadvertently misleading. We look forward to hosting Manchester Originals in the same way we're looking forward to hosting England v Pakistan for the Specsavers Test next year and delivering a first class experience here at Emirates Old Trafford."
So that means full throttle on the club's media outlets, because that is how they sell tickets for the Tests. I don't think so, if they have had to take this letter down.
Have they misunderstood what they are letting themselves in for?
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Post by richard on Dec 18, 2019 14:15:12 GMT
As I said somewhere else (apologies if it was on here), should I receive any correspondence directly from “Manchester Originals” I will be asking Data Protection Questions.
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