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Post by Dave Towers on Sept 30, 2021 17:54:21 GMT
And it goes into October Almost challenging last season’s T20 date of 4th October! |
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Post by chris on Sept 30, 2021 18:19:07 GMT
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Post by chris on Sept 30, 2021 18:20:39 GMT
Teams should carry over either all their points or none. If no Willis Trophy then no reason why they can't all play each other once, no need for any carrying forward then.
I imagine most fans this season, even without the benefit of hindsight, would have rather faced Yorkshire a third time, than a trip to Lord’s that hardly anyone made.
Skip 2022 could still have it as a charity / community shield season opener for 2023
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Post by Phil on Sept 30, 2021 20:38:14 GMT
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Post by man in the stand on Oct 1, 2021 10:07:11 GMT
As for this game I'd say that this pitch, on the 1st day, was unfit and if Lancs had bowled then Warks would have been dismissed cheaply.
The issues for CC in 2022 as I see them are - Batting - Losing Davies is a big blow but who is going to open with him? Can Balderson bat and bowl - should he become bat at 6 replacing Croft. The Jones/Livingstone slot ...Livingstone will recover his form but what about Jones?
Bowling - Too often Bailey has been leading the seam attack on his own with Mahood away or injured. Warks have the very experienced Bresnan as 2nd line seamer! Balderson and Blatherwick do show promise.
We probably need a overseas batsman but as to whether anybody will be available....
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Post by alanw on Oct 1, 2021 10:35:56 GMT
I agree that Livingstone will recover his form but I don't think he will play much due to IPL and England white ball commitments. I see the top five batters next year:
Jennings, Salt, Wells, Bohannon, Vilas
Balderson has done a very good job as a stand in opener but he is also a very promising bowler so I think he should bat in the lower middle order.
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Post by exile on Oct 1, 2021 10:50:08 GMT
I think this is probably the best we can do but it does raise the question of our apparent inability to find and develop our own top order batsmen (or hang onto them when we do manage it). Balderson is very promising but can't be expected to open the batting and be a front line bowler. I can't see Jones having much more time at Lancs. Although he was palpably sawn off this morning, his technique was poor and he's had enough time to address that (or our batting coaches are not good enough).
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Post by chris on Oct 1, 2021 11:09:30 GMT
I agree that Livingstone will recover his form but I don't think he will play much due to IPL and England white ball commitments. I see the top five batters next year: Jennings, Salt, Wells, Bohannon, Vilas Balderson has done a very good job as a stand in opener but he is also a very promising bowler so I think he should bat in the lower middle order.
Jennings, Salt, Wells, Bohannon, Vilas* (ov), Balderson, Lavelle+, Wood, Bailey, Mahmood, Parkinson
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Jennings, Salt, Wells, Bohannon, Vilas*+ (ov), 2nd Overseas, Balderson, Wood, Bailey, Mahmood, Parkinson
with the pace bowlers rotating again (Anderson, Blatherwick, Lamb, Hurt maybe even Gleeson).
Problem is top order back up having lost Davies, Shah and Cornall for different reasons.
Middle order back up is Livingstone when available, Jones and Croft. plus Lavelle for the second line up.
Would expect the announcements to start now the season has finished.
Shah, Moulton, maybe Burrows, maybe Gleeson, maybe Jones (read ages ago, I think on here, he’d turned down a request from Middlesex), maybe Croft retirement. |
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Post by denno97 on Oct 1, 2021 11:38:48 GMT
I agree that Livingstone will recover his form but I don't think he will play much due to IPL and England white ball commitments. I see the top five batters next year: Jennings, Salt, Wells, Bohannon, Vilas Balderson has done a very good job as a stand in opener but he is also a very promising bowler so I think he should bat in the lower middle order.
Jennings, Salt, Wells, Bohannon, Vilas* (ov), Balderson, Lavelle+, Wood, Bailey, Mahmood, Parkinson
or
Jennings, Salt, Wells, Bohannon, Vilas*+ (ov), 2nd Overseas, Balderson, Wood, Bailey, Mahmood, Parkinson
with the pace bowlers rotating again (Anderson, Blatherwick, Lamb, Hurt maybe even Gleeson).
Problem is top order back up having lost Davies, Shah and Cornall for different reasons.
Middle order back up is Livingstone when available, Jones and Croft. plus Lavelle for the second line up.
Would expect the announcements to start now the season has finished.
Shah, Moulton, maybe Burrows, maybe Gleeson, maybe Jones (read ages ago, I think on here, he’d turned down a request from Middlesex), maybe Croft retirement.They'll resign Jones because it's cheaper than signing a replacement. For next season it looks like Salt Jennings Wells Bohannon, Vilas, Overseas, Balderson Wood Bailey Mahmood/2nd Overseas, Parkinson. Can't see us seeing much of Mahmood and heard a rumor that Vilas was English qualified from next season. |
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Post by Admin on Oct 1, 2021 16:27:38 GMT
Lancashire were 171 for six in their second innings, still some 269 runs adrift of making Warwickshire bat again, with young opener George Balderson’s 65 offering a rare bright spot for the Red Rose.
Warwickshire were earlier eventually dismissed for 518 with captain Will Rhodes’ 156 the stand-out.
Rhodes lifted the LV= Insurance County Championship trophy just six days ago, when Warwickshire pipped Lancashire for the title, but the closeness of that battle has not been replicated in London this week.
Lancashire have been chasing the game from a long way behind since crashing to 12 for six on the opening morning before scrambling to 78 in their first innings.
Centuries from Rhodes and Rob Yates piled on the Red Rose misery, whose only motivation now appears to be to avoid the indignity of their largest-ever first-class defeat – by an innings and 220 runs against West Indies in 1950.
Rhodes added only five more to his overnight total when he was bowled by Jack Blatherwick before Matt Parkinson ended the innings, bowling debutant Manraj Johal, to finish with four for 78.
Lancashire started their second innings effectively with pride to play for, after conceding a 440-run first-innings lead, and lost Alex Davies when he called for a quick single.
Davies, who will join Warwickshire next summer, was run out by Craig Miles’ direct hit and the non-striker’s end despite a despairing dive.
Balderson and Luke Wells added 71 for the second wicket before former England seamer Tim Bresnan made the breakthrough, inducing an edge through to the keeper from Wells.
It preceded some rather loose dismissals as Josh Bohannon and Dane Vilas both guided the ball into the cordon. Balderson had reached his half-century from 111 balls, including eight fours, before he got a good ball from Liam Norwell that crashed into the stumps.
Steven Croft then made a curious exit when he appeared to miss a Danny Briggs delivery by some margin as it turned viciously from a length and into the hands of Bresnan at first slip. Croft nevertheless turned and made his way back to the pavilion as Warwickshire’s momentum towards victory gathered pace.
But with the light deteriorating the umpires stepped in at 4.15pm to take the players off the field and delay Warwickshire’s celebrations by at least another day.
The Bears claimed the final four wickets they required today inside 70 minutes to bowl Lancashire out for 241 and begin trophy-winning celebrations for the second time in a week.
Warwickshire, the county Bob Willis proudly represented for 13 years, lifted the LV= Insurance County Championship last Friday after pipping Lancashire for the title, but this contest was all one-way traffic.
Lancashire never recovered after crashing from six for 12 on the opening morning, eventually scrambling to 78, before Warwickshire piled on 518 on the back of centuries from captain Will Rhodes and Rob Yates.
Lancashire made a better fist of it with the bat second time round, headlined by 65 from young opener George Balderson on his first-ever trip to London, but after conceding a 440-run lead their main priority was avoiding the indignity of the largest defeat in their 156-year history of playing first-class cricket.
Late hitting from the tail at least ensured they progressed past the innings and 220 run loss at the hands of West Indies in 1950.Teenage debutant Manraj Johal claimed the first wicket of the day when he slipped a full delivery past Luke Wood and into his leg stump for a breezy 28.
Rob Jones was then lbw propping forward to Danny Briggs who then had Jack Blatherwick stumped as he attempted to swing a second six of the over into the stands.
Tom Bailey supplied some lusty hitting to ensure Lancashire also narrowly also avoided their biggest defeat against a county opposition – an innings and 220-run loss to Yorkshire in 1938 - before the next ball a top-edge was expertly pouched by keeper Michael Burgess running away towards fine leg.
Left-arm spinner Danny Briggs finished with three for 58 while Liam Norwell, who claimed the final wicket, returned three for 60.
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Post by man in the stand on Oct 2, 2021 12:43:04 GMT
For info - Lancs 1st innings scores this season in CC where we declared or were bowled out
Less than 200 runs 4 times
200 to 400 runs 6 times
Over 400 runs 3 times
Very much an all round performance. Six players have batting average of over 35....
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