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Post by happy larry on Jul 4, 2022 10:39:26 GMT
One of the few shinging lights in the team well played Tom
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Post by oldhamexile on Jul 4, 2022 13:33:03 GMT
One can never have too many shinging lights. I personally have a terrible habit of shinging loudly and out of tune when I'm in my cups after too many light ales.
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Post by happy larry on Jul 4, 2022 14:22:41 GMT
One of the few shinning lights in the team well played Tom |
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Post by happy larry on Jul 4, 2022 14:23:20 GMT
One of the few shinning lights in the team well played Tom just for you oldham |
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Post by happy larry on Sept 29, 2022 10:22:29 GMT
Id play the lad ahead of parkinson every day of the week ,
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Post by lancsdes on Sept 29, 2022 14:13:28 GMT
Parkinson has had a poor second half of the season but is still very young by legspinner standards and I think it’s a bit soon to dismiss him yet. Could do with a better Google and top spinner
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Post by denno97 on Sept 29, 2022 14:56:06 GMT
Parkinson has had a poor second half of the season but is still very young by legspinner standards and I think it’s a bit soon to dismiss him yet. Could do with a better Google and top spinner Parkys a luxury player which a team who wants to win the championship can’t afford(unless it’s a 2 spinner pitch). If Hartley can improve his batting and average around 27/28 ish and 30ish with the ball he’d be my number one choice. |
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Post by Dave Towers on Sept 29, 2022 18:59:48 GMT
Parkinson has had a poor second half of the season but is still very young by legspinner standards and I think it’s a bit soon to dismiss him yet. Could do with a better Google and top spinner I’ll tell you who’s had a poor season as well,Luke Wood. His wickets in the Championship have cost him over 40. |
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Post by redandrosy on Sept 29, 2022 21:04:39 GMT
Luke Wood was pretty average with bat and ball.
I think our top 5 got runs, Bailey and Williams did well with the new ball and apart from Harmer at Essex our spin attack can match most sides.
Where it lacks something is our change bowlers can't sustain the threat and we don't get enough runs from numbers 6 to 9 especially quick runs to give us time to bowl sides out.
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Post by mickeyg on Sept 29, 2022 21:46:10 GMT
I know its part of the game but how does being mucked about by England and being disrupted by the hundred mess with players. Not trying to make excuses, but maybe players rhythm can get thrown off by chopping and changing. Maybe thats why some completely check out playing for their county when England and the hundred come calling.
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Post by lancsdes on Sept 29, 2022 23:35:25 GMT
“Luke Wood was pretty average with bat and ball.
I think our top 5 got runs, Bailey and Williams did well with the new ball and apart from Harmer at Essex our spin attack can match most sides.
Where it lacks something is our change bowlers can't sustain the threat and we don't get enough runs from numbers 6 to 9 especially quick runs to give us time to bowl sides out.”I’m a bit off subject on Tom Hartley thread now but going off on tangents is one of the charms of cricket conversation.From the little I’ve seen, RedandRosy, I think Balderson and Blatherwick can offer quite a lot in the years to come. The latter impressed Somerset fans last year enough for them to ask me how he was doing this year. The former looks like a wicket taker every time I see him and I know he impresses Oldham Exile as well. I remember reading an article in one of the cricket magazines the spring after Lancashire won the county championship making us one of the favourites in 2012. The author who was a cricketer (forget who) gave pros and cons and in the cons he said “ It is difficult to produce the combination of team spirit, fitness , luck and freedom from injuries two years on the run. “ With that proviso and with the usual problem of forcing results at Old Trafford, I think we will be really strong contenders next year. |
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Post by sillypoint on Sept 30, 2022 8:48:03 GMT
Parkinson has had a poor second half of the season but is still very young by legspinner standards and I think it’s a bit soon to dismiss him yet. Could do with a better Google and top spinner I agree. I've noticed that he bowls few, if any, googlies these days. His variation just seems to be the straight on ball. Maybe bowling the googlies was what was causing his stress fractures earlier in his career. Rashid Khan gets most of his wickets with the googly, as indeed does Adil Rashid. |
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Post by man in the stand on Sept 30, 2022 12:00:14 GMT
Hartley has the lowest run per over of all the Lancs bowlers at 1.7 and a strike rate of 44...same as Hassan Ali! However he has only played a few games but he does show promise.
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Post by oldhamexile on Sept 30, 2022 12:55:51 GMT
“Luke Wood was pretty average with bat and ball.
I think our top 5 got runs, Bailey and Williams did well with the new ball and apart from Harmer at Essex our spin attack can match most sides.
Where it lacks something is our change bowlers can't sustain the threat and we don't get enough runs from numbers 6 to 9 especially quick runs to give us time to bowl sides out.”I’m a bit off subject on Tom Hartley thread now but going off on tangents is one of the charms of cricket conversation.From the little I’ve seen, RedandRosy, I think Balderson and Blatherwick can offer quite a lot in the years to come. The latter impressed Somerset fans last year enough for them to ask me how he was doing this year. The former looks like a wicket taker every time I see him and I know he impresses Oldham Exile as well. I remember reading an article in one of the cricket magazines the spring after Lancashire won the county championship making us one of the favourites in 2012. The author who was a cricketer (forget who) gave pros and cons and in the cons he said “ It is difficult to produce the combination of team spirit, fitness , luck and freedom from injuries two years on the run. “ With that proviso and with the usual problem of forcing results at Old Trafford, I think we will be really strong contenders next year. I'm a big Balderson fan Des, proper batter and lively bowler. George Hill at Yorkshire is a very similar player, will be interesting to watch their careers develop. I disagree on Luke Wood and for me that's statistics getting in the way of performances. Luke was bowling a lot of his overs in the difficult period with the old ball. I always think our attack lacks variety without his pace and left arm angle. Completely agree that both Parky and Luke Wood's form suffered after being away with England. Why England took Luke to the Netherlands and didn't play him, I will never understand. |
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Post by lancsdes on Aug 6, 2023 23:05:04 GMT
Must admit I’m amazed to see Tom Hartley being touted by both Derek Pringle and another writer ( forget who and I’ve now given the paper away) as an outside bet for the Indian tour.
Pringle said that on a raging turner, you need someone who bowls good pace with a repeatable action who can land the ball in the same spot. He said to forget the luxury of flight and variation which was for “ dreamers on non turning pitches”. He said that Monty Panesar outbowled the Indians in India through lack of variation.
Must admit, so many things happen both in and out of cricket as I get older that I do wonder if I understand anything nowadays and Derek Pringle knows far more about the game than I do. However, I will say that one spinner of variation and flight, Gary Keedy , gave me more pleasure in each season of his long career, indeed in some of his individual overs, than a host of flat spinners gave me in their combined careers. Isn’t it supposed to be entertainment ? Flight also gives bats more chance to attack. Bishen Bedi was regarded as a great bowler and entertainer through his variation but maybe he would have to change his game today.
Whilst on the left arm spinners, Lancashire made the mistake of trying to turn Stephen Parry from an excellent one day bowler into a dual purpose bowler and he lost it in the one day game.
Often wonder if Simon Kerrigan could have gone on an Indian tour at the end of the 2011 season , would he have made it?
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